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#1    OverSword

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:24 PM

I'm in total agreement with the NRA on this one.  Sometimes overkill is not the way to prove your point.

From the article:

Companies, customers and others critical of Texas gun rights advocates who have brought military-style assault rifles into businesses as part of demonstrations supporting "open carry" gun rights now have a surprising ally: the National Rifle Association.
The advocates' actions in restaurants and other public places — part of a push for less restrictive gun laws, including legalizing the open carry of handguns — have prompted public criticism.
The NRA has long been a zealous advocate for gun owners' rights. But the group's lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action, has called the demonstrations counterproductive to promoting gun rights, scary and "downright weird."
The NRA said the demonstrations have "crossed the line from enthusiasm to downright foolishness."
"Using guns merely to draw attention to yourself in public not only defies common sense, it shows a lack of consideration and manners. That's not the Texas way. And that's certainly not the NRA way," the NRA said in a statement posted on its website Friday.

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:44 PM

I agree. I would immediately conclude that anyone carrying a gun merely to draw attention to themselves is high on the list of 'Who Is an Irresponsible Gun Owner?'

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:47 PM

It is stupid.

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:50 PM

I think it's pretty weird too, and is not representative of safe and responsible firearm handling. Just because you can, does not mean you should.


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 09:19 PM

View Postrashore, on 03 June 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

I think it's pretty weird too, and is not representative of safe and responsible firearm handling. Just because you can, does not mean you should.

What good are rights if you can never use them?


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 09:26 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 03 June 2014 - 09:19 PM, said:

What good are rights if you can never use them?

with rights come responsibilities.

same thing as if i would scream in snowy mountains (very bad thing to do), and claim free speech. or freedom of expression. i wont be surprised if many people down those mountans would want to shut me up, and rightfully so.

Edited by aztek, 03 June 2014 - 09:32 PM.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:44 AM

http://news.yahoo.co...-051545622.html

Welp...looks like they recanted their statement.  It was written by a staffer expressing his personal opinion.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:02 PM

I think that they are carrying rifles around to protest the state's open carry law because the law bans open carry of handguns.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 02:25 PM

Because keeping it in their pants totally restricts their rights.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 02:29 PM

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It may not totally restrict, but it does restrict, which is an infringement and therefore unconstitutional.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:09 PM

I agree with the NRA (the staffer) on this.

Just because you have a right to do something, doesn't mean you should.  Intentionally trying to make a spectacle out of yourself in an attempt to thumb your nose at whomever is counterproductive in my opinion.  I see it here in NY at anti-SAFE Act rallies.  There's always some guy walking around with a firearm in public view.  Sure, he can legally do it, but guess who is going to be blasted all over the news that night and how is that going to be perceived by the non-gun owning public?  A lot of gun owners would reply by saying "well screw them, it's my right to do that".  And while technically they would be correct, that mini-van driving soccer mom in Westchester County has just as much of a vote as you do and there are a hell of lot more of her than there are of you.

Besides, pretty much any self defense and/or concealed carry expert will tell you to never open carry anything.  All you're doing is painting a target on your back.

Edited by Rafterman, 04 June 2014 - 03:13 PM.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:11 PM

View PostBama13, on 04 June 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It may not totally restrict, but it does restrict, which is an infringement and therefore unconstitutional.
I absolutely agree, however, when I imagine folks walking around with pistols strapped to their side in plain view, it makes me very nervous. The old wild west revisited?


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:24 PM

I have to agree.  There is something to be said for temperance.  Yes, I "can" do a thing, but maybe I shouldn't cause it sets a bad example or draws unneeded scrutiny.

I "get" why they do these over the top things...to get attention...but I disagree.  It never works out well, it makes good hearted, lawful citizens look bad.

Kinda like the "over the top" Christians that we occasionally run into...they mean well but they make other Christians look bad...their "zealousness" is a burden and a black eye.  I always thought Jesus looks down and sees these people and facepalms...."you are making me look bad"....

So...I am all for freedom and upholding the Bill of rights...but doing things like this makes good people look silly and that is bad.

Edited by Jeremiah65, 04 June 2014 - 03:25 PM.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:38 PM

View Postpraetorian-legio XIII, on 04 June 2014 - 03:11 PM, said:

I absolutely agree, however, when I imagine folks walking around with pistols strapped to their side in plain view, it makes me very nervous. The old wild west revisited?

Well I can tell you that Alabama has open carry for all firearms and yet I do not see at lot of people walking around openly carrying. Now if Texas was to change their open carry to include handguns and they still walk around open carrying rifles then I would say they are just being foolish for foolish sake.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:50 PM

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