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#1    AncientLight

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:15 AM

I found this and at least it's a new perspective.  I'm sure most of us here have heard this kind of claims before about the ancient civilizations , but this is a bit new I think.
I would think that any scientist making such claim has to be quite sure of what they're saying as they lose a lot of credibility otherwise :)

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:46 AM

Believe me there are many "scientist" making all sorts of claims on a daily basis it seems....

Well i am no scientist,but i read the article and have come to the conclusion that first you need to talk to our resident expert zoser for a topic like this,then just to make sure everything is clear and makes common sense seek out a man by the name of seeder.There now your ready to go   :tu:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 05:06 AM

There is absolutely no useful information in that link.  It does not mention the origin of the alleged scroll nor does it mention any kind of peer review done on the scroll.  The way science works is through peer review.  Long before there are announcements or press releases, discoveries are shared with peers to test and verify the results.  Going straight to the press is not an acceptable behavior in the scientific community so this is probably just another load of pseudo scientific BS.  The fact that this story was covered by both abovetopsecret.com and the Weekly World News should tell the reader much about the veracity of the claims.

The name Dr. Stephan Weisz only shows up in conjunction with this story so I am sure he is a real person.  :P

Edited by sinewave, 04 June 2014 - 05:12 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 05:19 AM

Well sinewave just gave you a dose of the truth seeder would have gave you,my attempt for my own amusement has been foiled haha.My apologies....

Though i cant promise i wont try again  :unsure2:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 05:32 AM

What is wrong with ATS? :)  No the link didn't go in dept but I thought maybe others had heard some more about this or such . I didn't bother to google :P


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 05:48 AM

The original source is Weekly World News (which reports, I think, on Batboy) and Before its News, a hoax news site.  See here: http://weeklyworldne...-ancient-egypt/

There is no Egyptologist named "Conrad Vetsch."  The "gathering of scientists" isn't named (conferences have names)

The Egyptian language has been pretty well translated and understood -- well over 20,000 words are known.  Tut's artifacts are particularly well understood (and if you want a good laugh, the Egyptian image there is NOT Tut but is Ahkenaten... in fact, you can see his name and his wife's name very plainly in the picture.)  The "bird" is from 1,000 years after Tut... and the Red Planet was dry and very much as it is today back in the time of Tutankhamen and Ahkenaten.

So... someone picked up an article from a hoax site.  It got spread to several other sites, and you got ahold of a fourth or fifth generation copy.

It's a hoax.  Really.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:41 AM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 04 June 2014 - 04:46 AM, said:

Believe me there are many "scientist" making all sorts of claims on a daily basis it seems....

Well i am no scientist,but i read the article and have come to the conclusion that first you need to talk to our resident expert zoser for a topic like this,then just to make sure everything is clear and makes common sense seek out a man by the name of seeder.There now your ready to go   :tu:

I wouldnt be recommending zoser, :no:  you know by now how zoseritis affects certain types :lol:

Kenemet and sinewave got there first, job done! :tu:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:47 AM

View Postseeder, on 04 June 2014 - 08:41 AM, said:

I wouldnt be recommending zoser, :no:  you know by now how zoseritis affects certain types :lol:

Kenemet and sinewave got there first, job done! :tu:

It's a shame,a good time soiled lol!

Jk yesterday was the first day in my short time back things were popping like the old days,you might say it was "vitrified"  :lol:

Edited by CrimsonKing, 04 June 2014 - 08:53 AM.

"If it is not advantageous,do not move.If objectives can not be attained,do not employ the army.Unless endangered do not engage in warfare.The ruler cannot mobilize the army out of personal anger.The general can not engage in battle because of personal frustration.When it is advantageous,move;when not advantageous,stop.Anger can revert to happiness,annoyance can revert to joy,but a vanquished state cannot be revived,the dead cannot be brought back to life." Sun-Tzu

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:49 AM

View PostAncientLight, on 04 June 2014 - 04:15 AM, said:

I found this and at least it's a new perspective.  I'm sure most of us here have heard this kind of claims before about the ancient
civilizations , but this is a bit new I think.
Nothing new here, it`s the classic von Däniken style.

View PostAncientLight, on 04 June 2014 - 04:15 AM, said:

I would think that any scientist making such claim has to be quite sure of what they're saying as they lose a lot of credibility
otherwise

First, there is nothing to lose for fictitious individuals and second, there are a lot of ppl out there with scientific education grades
but claiming the wildest rubbish.

View PostAncientLight, on 04 June 2014 - 04:15 AM, said:

And yeah, donation button.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:50 AM

I am going to steal a most excellent phrase from Sinewave - one of the best I have ever heard here.


Well, if you're going to go crazy, might as well go all out pants on head crazy!!  :lol: :rofl:


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:53 AM

View PostAncientLight, on 04 June 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

What is wrong with ATS?
You can place an underexposed pic of you left shoe there and claim its an alien. It will then be discussed
from which star constellation it is coming from.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:15 AM

  • No reason for anyone to get into this conversation unless truly interested....Sometimes i just do things lol   :devil:


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:17 AM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 04 June 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

  • No reason for anyone to get into this conversation unless truly interested....Sometimes i just do things lol   :devil:


Keep doing it, I like your sense of humour :D

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:18 AM

Interesting read thanks.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:59 AM

Well, that's certainly 'beyond the pillars of Hercules'. :unsure2:

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