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#1    OverSword

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 01:43 AM

From the article:

Do the government and its ancillaries have ownership over your child?
Do they have the power to detain and question a child without parental permission?
Apparently they think they do according to a new Michigan medical records access law which reportedly requires doctors to have a private conversation with minors when their parents bring them in for medical care.
This is the notice Christy Duffy saw posted at her physician’s office when she brought her 17-year old daughter in for a minor foot injury.
When Mrs. Duffy returned home she penned the following public service announcement warning parents about what to expect the next time they visit their doctor:

Read it here

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 02:04 AM

It is now said that this notice was put up as required due to law that doesn't exist.

Mom Who Refused to Let Nurse Have ‘Private’ Conversation With Her Daughter Believes She Caught Hospital Citing Law That Doesn’t Exist
http://www.theblaze....t-doesnt-exist/


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 03:02 AM

We move a lot and have had our kids to several doctors, dentists, orthodontists in a few states over the years.
One and only one, had a sign that requested parents not accompany their children into the exam room, as this gives the doctor a chance to get to know the child, or some such.

I never thought birth control, drugs, or "rock and roll", but I did think Pedophile. I ignored the sign that day. We had another looong important talk with our kids. And we found another doctor.
That was the only one over many years that ever had that notice, though. I can see it becoming more common, however.

And A**** doctors and dentists do take liberties with patients... I know.

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 06:07 AM

I'd have said "bull****" and left.

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:02 AM

Doctors considering that it might be a sensible idea to be able to discuss rationally and without hysteria issues relating to sex and drugs??! This is an absolutely horrifying and terrifying notion!!!  So we'd prefer it if these things were not discussed confidentially and rationally, then, and the policy of "just continue to pretend that they don't exist, then our precious ones will never find out about them" (as this outraged parent seems to feel) should continue. Well, it's been such a success, hasn't it, why change anything.

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:03 AM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 06 June 2014 - 03:02 AM, said:


I never thought birth control, drugs, or "rock and roll", but I did think Pedophile. I ignored the sign that day. We had another looong important talk with our kids. And we found another doctor.
That was the only one over many years that ever had that notice, though. I can see it becoming more common, however.

And A**** doctors and dentists do take liberties with patients... I know.
i'm sorry, if you can't trust a doctor, then there really is no hope any more and you may as well never allow your children to have contact with anyone outside your own door. I'm really sorry.

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:22 AM

Parents should accompany their children, as spouses should accompany each other.  Not because of fear of pedophilia -- that's a bit hysterical to my thinking -- but just so the adult gets the story straight and first hand.  I also think with younger children there will be less fear if the child is not alone so things like blood pressure will be more accurate.

There may be times when the doctor can't get a straight story from the child because the parent persists in answering instead, even when told, "let's let Johnny tell me."  Such parents are unfortunate and I feel sorry for both the doctor and the kid, but they still are the parents.


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 08:05 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 06 June 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

Parents should accompany their children, as spouses should accompany each other.  Not because of fear of pedophilia -- that's a bit hysterical to my thinking -- but just so the adult gets the story straight and first hand.  I also think with younger children there will be less fear if the child is not alone so things like blood pressure will be more accurate.

There may be times when the doctor can't get a straight story from the child because the parent persists in answering instead, even when told, "let's let Johnny tell me."  Such parents are unfortunate and I feel sorry for both the doctor and the kid, but they still are the parents.
Children, yes, but the one in the story was 17. Surely parents must realise that there are some things you really wouldn't want to share with your parents at that age.

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 08:34 AM

View PostAdmiral Rhubarb, on 06 June 2014 - 07:03 AM, said:

i'm sorry, if you can't trust a doctor, then there really is no hope any more and you may as well never allow your children to have contact with anyone outside your own door. I'm really sorry.

When it comes to my kids I'd rather be wrong than proven right. And making parenting judgement calls happen daily. They are certainly not always all or nothing and they certainly do not necessarily lead to black and white thinking.
They are part of raising kids. I made a decision that day. If you think that decision somehow means I might as well never allow my kids to have contact with anyone outside my own door, that is your conclusion for my kids, not my conclusion for my kids.

Apparently you've never been abused by a doctor or found out your son's gymnastic's coach was a pedophile. I have, so my perspective and radar is different than yours. I won't apologize for it, or agree with your faulty logic.

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 08:43 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 06 June 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

Parents should accompany their children, as spouses should accompany each other.  Not because of fear of pedophilia -- that's a bit hysterical to my thinking -- but just so the adult gets the story straight and first hand.  I also think with younger children there will be less fear if the child is not alone so things like blood pressure will be more accurate.

There may be times when the doctor can't get a straight story from the child because the parent persists in answering instead, even when told, "let's let Johnny tell me."  Such parents are unfortunate and I feel sorry for both the doctor and the kid, but they still are the parents.

Hysterical? When should you worry about pedophilia then? Never? With a priest? Coach? Scout Leader? These are all areas where pedophiles prowl for kids, including in medical settings.
So I'm not sure what you mean by hysterical thinking.

When is it not hysterical, after your kid tells you about being abused? After the kids coach is on the evening news? Then you can think hysterically?

I've been there. No thanks.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 06 June 2014 - 08:47 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 09:35 AM

What would you do if you caught your son m********ing?


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 09:58 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 06 June 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

What would you do if you caught your son m********ing?

Think he was human. Who you talking too?


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 10:03 AM

I got the feeling you were a bit obsessive about children and sex, but your answer relieves me.  Still, why then the concern over what a doctor might do that would promptly be reported by your child if he or she is normal?  I think often doctors want to not have certain parents present.


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 10:36 AM

My thoughts: Seventeen isn't seven. At seven I should be with my child during medical exams. At seventeen it's time for them to have the option of private discussion with the doctor.

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 12:37 PM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 06 June 2014 - 08:34 AM, said:

I won't apologize for it, or agree with your faulty logic.
Faulty logic? isn't it more faulty logic to live in fear of every medical professional?

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