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Is Islam the religion of peace?


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#31    XenoFish

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:22 PM

I have seen to many good people turn into monsters because of religion. Your religion is just like the rest of them, a virus in the minds of humanity. Taking away free will and ruling by fear. All religions do this. They promise hope in one hand and damnation in the other. What is to love about that? What makes these people better than another. A man chooses, a slave obeys. I am not a slave to the works and words of men. There are no Gods.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:23 PM

View PostXenoFish, on 08 June 2014 - 10:18 PM, said:

I think you'll have a power struggle with the Catholics and Christians. They have guns too.

that wasn't funny, if you asked them, they will say we don't make wars with muslims.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:24 PM

I think all the Abrahamic religions are going to find it hard to keep a majority when the environment becomes so degraded people start dying and God/Jesus/Mohammad doesn't come flying down to rescue  them.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:25 PM

View PostXenoFish, on 08 June 2014 - 10:22 PM, said:

I have seen to many good people turn into monsters because of religion. Your religion is just like the rest of them, a virus in the minds of humanity. Taking away free will and ruling by fear. All religions do this. They promise hope in one hand and damnation in the other. What is to love about that? What makes these people better than another. A man chooses, a slave obeys. I am not a slave to the works and words of men. There are no Gods.

I'm not trying to make you believe that there is God or there is not. My aim is to make you an educated person. Go and learn is better for you.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:27 PM

View PostTheLionsHunter, on 08 June 2014 - 10:11 PM, said:

You have just to collecte data from a lot of different sources, and you will see that things are all in the way of taking sharia law as
a general law. within years there will be voices for that like what happened for gays. it's just a matter of time.
You are a dreamer. Yes of course, sharia has been spreaded but you underestimate the increasing resistance by non muslims against
that trend. A global sharia will not be reality in future as we western orientated ppl will not accept such depression in general.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:27 PM

Educate or indoctrinate? Sometimes the line is blurred between the two.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:28 PM

View PostGreenmansGod, on 08 June 2014 - 10:24 PM, said:

I think all the Abrahamic religions are going to find it hard to keep a majority when the environment becomes so degraded people start dying and God/Jesus/Mohammad doesn't come flying down to rescue  them.

well, islam does not teach us that Mohamed (pbuh) is going to fly down to rescue us. is it hard for you to google and find the answer before posting nonsense.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:28 PM

View PostTheLionsHunter, on 08 June 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

Do you have any basic knowledge of the saying of the muslim scholars ( from different madahib) about the issue of apostacy ?
Just the evidence of our own eyes on how Islamic Countries "deal" with it. The actions, as ever, speak louder then the words.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:31 PM

View PostTheLionsHunter, on 08 June 2014 - 10:28 PM, said:

well, islam does not teach us that Mohamed (pbuh) is going to fly down to rescue us. is it hard for you to google and find the answer before posting nonsense.

Don't really have enough interest in your nonsense to bother actually.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:33 PM

View Posttoast, on 08 June 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

You are a dreamer. Yes of course, sharia has been spreaded but you underestimate the increasing resistance by non muslims against
that trend. A global sharia will not be reality in future as we western orientated ppl will not accept such depression in general.

Yeah, resisting, well as it is known historically, the more you resist islam, the more it gains power and the more it is accepted. Magul has conquered the islamic world and they have killed and burning people and books trying to destroy islam but instead of that they have accepted islam as a religion in the end.

Well, I think the voices that call for a sharia law are not merely muslims and they are from you "westren"

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:33 PM

From what I can tell there are many people who are leaving religion. Perhaps this is a good thing. Whatever happened to keeping your faith to yourself?

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Yeah, resisting, well as it is known historically, the more you resist islam, the more it gains power and the more it is accepted. Magul has conquered the islamic world and they have killed and burning people and books trying to destroy islam but instead of that they have accepted islam as a religion in the end.

So who will be the Islamic Hitler that will raise an army to wipe out the infidels? The only way such ignorance is accepted is by force.

Edited by XenoFish, 08 June 2014 - 10:36 PM.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:36 PM

View PostTheLionsHunter, on 08 June 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

Justifying murder in the name of honor and faith has nothing to do with islam, correct your data !!! .
And yet ... it's not my lot who are murdering people because they change religions.
It's not my lot who are mutilating their daughters.
It's not my lot who are declaring a Holy Struggle against other nations.

And it's sad that it is your lot.
Because once upon a time, it was Islam that was teh centre of learning and understanding for the world.
We use "Arabic numerals", we study "Algebra", we have great works of literature and art that exist to this day because once upon a time Muslims said they were worthy of keeping and understanding. Now-a-days they'd all be burnt.
My lot moved forward and your lot moved backwards. You're where Christianity was centuries ago. A cultural Dark Age where the only things worth knowing are in the Quran and anyone who disagrees is the enemy. My lot's been there. My lot was as bad. You're in need of a Reformation.
You need a Martin Luther to nail some declarations to the door of the Dome of the Rock.

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When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:37 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 08 June 2014 - 10:28 PM, said:

Just the evidence of our own eyes on how Islamic Countries "deal" with it. The actions, as ever, speak louder then the words.

Yeah, sure. media propaganda vs fact . They said that the westerns read, you get my point.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:38 PM

View PostGreenmansGod, on 08 June 2014 - 10:31 PM, said:

Don't really have enough interest in your nonsense to bother actually.

I believe you !!!

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:41 PM

I wonder how deep your conditioning is. If I asked you "Would you kindly" would do anything I ask? (wonder how many will get that reference?) Your just as brainwashed as the rest of them. I find it amusing and sad.

The greatest limitations in your life are the one's you impose upon yourself.
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