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Can any scents induce deeper meditation?


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#1    Moeyoatey

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 05:31 PM

Would peppermint or rosemary aid in a deeper mediation? If not are there any scents that might work?


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:05 PM

good question, i don't know myself but i am interested to see what folks say

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:43 PM

I believe so. Yes.
I have experimented quite a bit with scents; pure incense and pure aromatherapy oils.

Scents have been used for centuries to enhance all kinds of experiences. You name it, there's an enhancing incense or aromatherapy oil that may help align you to the desired frequency.

There is too, a difference between the ingested, topical and inhaled scents.

But when you ask about (deeper) meditative states; Then, i wouldn't personally equate Rosemary or Peppermint with deeper meditations, as such.

Rosemary is the scent for remembrance and forgetfulness. Good for study and retention of new knowledge.
The flowers of the Rosemary have been known as the blue roses of forgetfulness.

There is much folk law and so called scientific researches into the powers of pure essential oils and resins that you could take a look at.
The church incenses; Sanctuary, Priory and Cathedral, I find particularly affective but it really does depend.

Peppermint is used for sharpening the senses, the minds wakefulness in particular. A good pick me up for quizzes and exams.

There is so much i could write on this subject of scents…. The basics are that all scent falls into three basic categories; of the high, mid and base notes. It's like music. This is a symbiotic process of resonance and harmonics between each note and that this can be used in isolation independent of other notes or in symphony, balances or combinations to create different affects.
As we are all individual and at any given time, the notes that may be needed to enhance, readdress or balance ones own particular needs are variable.

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 05:22 PM

Those are the only two scents that I have handy. Is there any particular scent aids in meditation?


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 03:28 PM

Yes, there are many.

Other general incense that aid meditation are;
Nag-Champa-Agarbatti,
Sandalwood,
Frankincense,
Cedar,
Jasmine,
Sage,
Chamomile,
Benzoin,
Cypress,
Copal,
Acacia,
Woodruff.

Try them individually first before attempting any blending.
See which works best for you, I'd start with Cedar first but it really is up to you and what you have access to of cause.

When you say, (A deeper meditation). What kind of deep, do you mean?

You see, i may recommend something else completely, depending on the type of meditation you are trying to get deeper with…
For example;
If you are trying to enhance your breathe work, then i would be recommending fresh air/ Sea air or going up a snow capped mountain.
Whereas,
If it is to just go neutral and into a seat of quiet observation, then Basilica is a great bast all and allows for great quietening of a bizzy mind.
Whereas,
If it is to astral travel, then again i would recommend something else….Do you see what i am saying? It really depends what you mean by (Deep Meditation) There are so many forms.
Foot note: Generally speaking you will find any meditation practise easier during the Monday or Wednesday of the Full or Dark Moon phases, When the tides are at their highest or lowest points. Just thought you'd like to know…So, today would be affective in any enhancement. It being the full moon and all.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 11:41 PM

All senses can induce deeper meditative states, scent is no different.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:48 AM

I have found, the best thing for deeper meditations, is to practice doing long meditations, its simple what you practice you become good at. The mind will always try to distract you from practicing, IT does not want to be quietened down and controlled, it likes being the pilot of your life, it will come up with idea after idea to stop you from practicing and escaping its control. What about this what about that, play soft music, whale song, chanting, candles, crystals, dimmed lighting, a special mat, stand on your head, wear special clothing, turn the heating up, turn the heating down, etc. etc. Its all just part of the game it plays.  I remember a teacher who warned his new students about our jailer, the tricky mind. He said when you go to practice tomorrow just as you start to quieten down you may think “Have you put the cat out?” you may think I haven’t got a cat! Your mind may think “have you ever thought about getting a cat?” and so it goes, on and on distracting from your goal of entering Peace. When we enter into the inner realm of Peace what does it matter what is going on outside of our body? The realm of Peace within us requires no external add on, It has been the same from ancient times we just need to turn the senses inside and surrender.  Of course living in a beautiful environment is great but for someone who has made that connection inside, a cave could be just as good. Meditation is the practice of a life time but the mind wants instant results, funny thing is if you could just let go and surrender yourself to practice you would be there in a flash, when in that state of peace we all have within us everything is great. Just practice and after that go buy your scents or whatever.  Practice makes perfect, sorry to go on but just practice meditation and enjoy your life that’s all that is required, it has took me many years to understand this, like a stone in a river over time the water will wear away the rough edges.
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 12:40 PM

In the end it is all psychological. The music, scents, etc are all props. You don't really need any of it; just a plain room or even an empty closet (hey, who actually has an empty closet, right?) and either gaze at a wall or close your eyes.

See...the mind/ego is not a separate thing that has to be killed off or eliminated, they are all cute buzzwords that describe US.
It is not the "mind" that wants to wander but US as we ARE the culmination of what we call the "mind" which means we cannot be helpless against ourselves. We often have the tendency to wander because something isn't exciting enough so after a few moments we may want to get up and do something else.

Anywhoo, if you can eliminate the props then you eliminate your reliance on them do calm your mind and in the end you are far better off in the end.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 04:40 PM

View PostBlue Star, on 13 June 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

Yes, there are many.

Other general incense that aid meditation are;
Nag-Champa-Agarbatti,
Sandalwood,
Frankincense,
Cedar,
Jasmine,
Sage,
Chamomile,
Benzoin,
Cypress,
Copal,
Acacia,
Woodruff.

Try them individually first before attempting any blending.
See which works best for you, I'd start with Cedar first but it really is up to you and what you have access to of cause.

When you say, (A deeper meditation). What kind of deep, do you mean?

You see, i may recommend something else completely, depending on the type of meditation you are trying to get deeper with…
For example;
If you are trying to enhance your breathe work, then i would be recommending fresh air/ Sea air or going up a snow capped mountain.
Whereas,
If it is to just go neutral and into a seat of quiet observation, then Basilica is a great bast all and allows for great quietening of a bizzy mind.
Whereas,
If it is to astral travel, then again i would recommend something else….Do you see what i am saying? It really depends what you mean by (Deep Meditation) There are so many forms.
Foot note: Generally speaking you will find any meditation practise easier during the Monday or Wednesday of the Full or Dark Moon phases, When the tides are at their highest or lowest points. Just thought you'd like to know…So, today would be affective in any enhancement. It being the full moon and all.

That is helpful advice. I think I'll start by trying the cedar or sage. I know the store I frequent carries both of those. For deep meditation, mainly I want to be able to meditate longer with more benefits. Right now I can only meditate for maybe ten minutes and then I lose my focus. Although I have some gains in that time, if I can increase my meditative state then it seems I would additional gains.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 04:47 PM

View PostRyu, on 14 June 2014 - 12:40 PM, said:

In the end it is all psychological. The music, scents, etc are all props. You don't really need any of it; just a plain room or even an empty closet (hey, who actually has an empty closet, right?) and either gaze at a wall or close your eyes.

See...the mind/ego is not a separate thing that has to be killed off or eliminated, they are all cute buzzwords that describe US.
It is not the "mind" that wants to wander but US as we ARE the culmination of what we call the "mind" which means we cannot be helpless against ourselves. We often have the tendency to wander because something isn't exciting enough so after a few moments we may want to get up and do something else.

Anywhoo, if you can eliminate the props then you eliminate your reliance on them do calm your mind and in the end you are far better off in the end.

I would agree for those who are more advance in meditating. For myself, I tend to to get bored with it and lose focus. I had a similar problem when I studied. I would lose focus every 10 minutes or so and then waste 5 minutes getting back on track. I started using rosemary and I can now I sit and study for two hours, no problems. I was going to use the same approach to meditation but it hasn't work, at least not with the scents I've used.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:14 PM

Ive often found burning certain poppys to be a wonderful aid to deep meditation

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:50 PM

I've always liked white sage.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:59 PM

My own farts are sometimes comforting, I've found.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 11:03 PM

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 04:46 AM

View PostMoeyoatey, on 11 June 2014 - 05:31 PM, said:

Would peppermint or rosemary aid in a deeper mediation? If not are there any scents that might work?
Deeper mediattion no.  Help to focus the mind a certain direction only.





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