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#1    zoser

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:18 PM

Rendlesham, Malmstrom, Wurtsmith AFB, Loring AFB, etc..............

Why have they been interested?  Have they stopped taking an interest?  is it since the cold war has subsided?  Can we expect another wave of sightings around nuclear installations now that tensions are rising between NATO and Russia again?

What did they do at these installations apart from fly around, shine lights and land?  What was it all about?  Have these same incidents occurred in Russia or China?

Take a look at the very recent dramatisation of the Loring AFB UFO in 1975.

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When the Big News finally breaks—when some unimpeachable, high-level government insider finally admits on-the-record that UFOs are very real and that those who pilot them, although seemingly not from the neighborhood, are nevertheless interested in and apparently concerned about our nuclear weapons—humanity's future will take a dramatic new turn. Once that happens, and it will sooner or later, everything we humans thought we knew about reality will be up for grabs.

http://www.ufohastin...washington-post

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:19 PM

Oh, UFOs are real, I don't need some "high-level government insider" to tell me that.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:20 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 11 June 2014 - 08:19 PM, said:

Oh, UFOs are real, I don't need some "high-level government insider" to tell me that.

No I agree.  What though is the 'rub' with these nuclear installations?

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:25 PM

The Wurtsmith AFB incident (1975) occurred very close to the Loring AFB incident:

http://www.nicap.org...0_wurtsmith.htm

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:35 PM

View Postzoser, on 11 June 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

No I agree.  What though is the 'rub' with these nuclear installations?

Drunk, stupid, war-jittery soldiers are just seeing things, like flying lighthouses.

Actually, I don't know.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:38 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 11 June 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

Drunk, stupid, war-jittery soldiers are just seeing things, like flying lighthouses.

Actually, I don't know.

They risk getting attacked and must surely know that.  I'd love to know if those nukes at Rendlesham were disabled in some way.  

There must have been some purpose to their visits.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:39 PM

A case in the USSR in 1982:

http://beforeitsnews...82-2674314.html

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:55 PM

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I haven't looked at the links yet but want to say that the nuclear connection is going to be central to understanding
the UFO/ET phenomon, IMO.

And is the reason that there hasn't been...and may never be any official disclosure.
Because of the entanglement with Defence.

There may be two aspects...

One..that nuclear weapons have to be kept on certain positions on the Earth's magnetic grid..
And as UFOs (Interdimensional craft? and Time Travellers?)...use that grid for travelling along..
UFOs will naturally be around nuclear facilities..because they are sharing the same space (magnetic positions)
UFOs might also be unintentionally drawn to nuclear facilities because they could mess up their navigation...?

Two... because nuclear testing ripped into and messed up the Space/Time geometry...it could have opened
up a time warp thing that's affecting other dimensions of existence. And they might be coming to investigate
the problem...

no-one panic...lol...just speculation..


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:23 PM

I'm always reminded of Klaatu giving us a flea in our collective ears about "spreading man's violence" in the Day the Earth Stood Still when I think about it actually!
It's interesting that UFOs do seem to be attracted to nukes, are they attracted to nuclear power plants too? Because I reckon there's been as much life lost due to the likes of Chernobyl and Fukishima as there has Hiroshima and Nagasaki, if they're "protecting the wildlife" from radiation they're not doing a good job, which suggests that they're actually protecting themselves if they're knobbling the nukes.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:41 PM

View Postzoser, on 11 June 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

No I agree.  What though is the 'rub' with these nuclear installations?

There is no rub. The frequency of sightings around nuclear facilities is no higher than anywhere else.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:21 PM

View Postbadeskov, on 11 June 2014 - 09:41 PM, said:

There is no rub. The frequency of sightings around nuclear facilities is no higher than anywhere else.

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That should be something that is easily provable but for some mysterious reason believers never post any (unbiased) numbers to support the claim that UFO sightings are more frequent near nuclear facilities. It is an empty claim without that data. Who knows, maybe I will be surprised when someone puts up some convincing numbers but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:47 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 11 June 2014 - 09:23 PM, said:

I'm always reminded of Klaatu giving us a flea in our collective ears about "spreading man's violence" in the Day the Earth Stood Still when I think about it actually!
It's interesting that UFOs do seem to be attracted to nukes, are they attracted to nuclear power plants too? Because I reckon there's been as much life lost due to the likes of Chernobyl and Fukishima as there has Hiroshima and Nagasaki, if they're "protecting the wildlife" from radiation they're not doing a good job, which suggests that they're actually protecting themselves if they're knobbling the nukes.

They are not interested in Nukes, that's just Robert Hastings angle into UFOlogy. If you read Swamp Gas Times by Patrick Huyghe he shows the statistics of UFO sightings and you are much more likely to see a UFO over a public space than you are over a military installation. Look what happened to the Echo Flight claim when it was opened up here, that was a big fat lie and was debunked from every angle. It's just more ETH hype.

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 12:46 AM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 11 June 2014 - 09:23 PM, said:

It's interesting that UFOs do seem to be attracted to nukes, are they attracted to nuclear power plants too? Because I reckon there's been as much life lost due to the likes of Chernobyl and Fukishima as there has Hiroshima and Nagasaki, if they're "protecting the wildlife" from radiation they're not doing a good job, which suggests that they're actually protecting themselves if they're knobbling the nukes.

You reckon the 30 direct casualties and possible 4000 follow up casualties of Chernobyl and the...none...from Fukushima are as much as the 150,000 and 75,000 direct deaths from Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 12:54 AM

View PostSweetpumper, on 11 June 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

Drunk, stupid, war-jittery soldiers are just seeing things, like flying lighthouses.

Actually, I don't know.

I don't think the claimants like Salas were drunk or jittery, or even seeing things, just stupid as far as I know. He couldn't even get his locations right until an evil skeptic showed how full of crap he really is and then he changed his claim. They would be lost without skeptics. Good thing some good soldiers offer the time to illustrate what fanatical fools these wild claimants actually be.

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 03:48 AM

View Postaquatus1, on 12 June 2014 - 12:46 AM, said:

You reckon the 30 direct casualties and possible 4000 follow up casualties of Chernobyl and the...none...from Fukushima are as much as the 150,000 and 75,000 direct deaths from Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
how many have gotten "it's not related, honest" cancers from Chernobyl and the like?

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