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Okla. Tea Party GOP Candidate on Killing Gays

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#16    epicdarkness

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:14 PM

Oh course you can, Alberta is a redneck backwoods kind of place. The texas of Canada if you will and in fact Calgary is quite bigoted and hate filled.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:24 PM

Well he isn't definitely going to become an senator or governor for sure. He is advocating lynching the gay community due to religious intolerance. All states are bound by the constitution except for Texas, separation of church and state is a must.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:32 PM

View PostParanormalcy, on 18 June 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Source: http://www.huffingto..._n_5486678.html

Sometimes my state gets in the news for good things. Some very RARE times. We have a lot of astronauts, I'm proud to note, or at least parts that get made for astronautical needs. So... there's that.

Then... the things we export though... not so positive and forward-thinking. I am officially requesting to be adopted by any more blue-leaning state. I'd like to take the role of a cat, if you want to get one but don't want to mess with a litterbox. I am housebroken, though I do shed.

If that was Britain the political party would've kicked him out the moment he said it and his political career would be over,even people on the right who are religious don't come out with crap like that here

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:47 PM

View Postdr no, on 18 June 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

If that was Britain the political party would've kicked him out the moment he said it and his political career would be over,even people on the right who are religious don't come out with crap like that here

Thankfully it would be the same here.
I can't remember when I last saw a candidate from one of our major political parties, who publicly used the bible to guide their political views. I have no idea who of our politicians believes in god (not even the Prime Minister), because that is just never an issue here.

I hope that the citizens of Colorado doesn't elect him. Please, please, please !

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 04:18 PM

View Postdr no, on 18 June 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

If that was Britain the political party would've kicked him out the moment he said it and his political career would be over,
Something Nigel Farage has quite a bit of experience of doing .... :innocent:

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:10 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 18 June 2014 - 12:40 PM, said:

From the article:

"I look forward to applying Biblical principles to Oklahoma Law".

Sharia law - eat your heart out, there's a new kid on the block (or, well an old kid wearing new clothes anyway). :cry: :no:

Cool - will incest, rape, slavery, and genocide be approved as well?  Because not only is that in the Christian magic book, but it's also encouraged by their Flying Spaghetti Monster.  

And if you're following some of the discussions in the religious forum, I made a statement that I don't have problems with religion and Christianity in general as long as people keep their personal feelings to themselves and stop trying to shove it down everyone's throats. Some forum members called me on it and said that they had never encountered anything like that.

Well, here you go.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:40 PM

View PostRafterman, on 18 June 2014 - 06:10 PM, said:

Cool - will incest, rape, slavery, and genocide be approved as well?  Because not only is that in the Christian magic book, but it's also encouraged by their Flying Spaghetti Monster.  

And if you're following some of the discussions in the religious forum, I made a statement that I don't have problems with religion and Christianity in general as long as people keep their personal feelings to themselves and stop trying to shove it down everyone's throats. Some forum members called me on it and said that they had never encountered anything like that.

Well, here you go.

You and I must have a very different definition of shoving something down someone's throat. How does a window washer, with a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected, making an idiotic statement constitute shoving anything down anyone's throat? I'm thrilled he made his opinion known. He put the final nail in his own political coffin.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:44 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 18 June 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

I wonder if he thinks those working on Saturday should be put to death..

Odds are that he, like most Christians, do not understand that we are fulfilled Jews.

This slip up on his part is so fascinating to me. It is his deeply held belief that he should be killing people just for who they are.

Wow. Just, wow. I thought we were outta the Dark Ages.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:00 PM

Maybe it's time for Scott Esk to come out of the closet and stop hating himself?

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:01 PM

I guess I did omit my own true horror at seeing this article - I think I was (rare for me) truly stunned beyond being able to make a full reaction.

First off, it IS free speech (I think), and though this is very borderline hate speech by the candidate, as long as it IS covered (I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure where the line is on this kind of thing), I do think as a citizen, he should have the right to say it in a civil manner, as reprehensible as it is, if he is truly expressing his thoughts or beliefs. And I love and agree with Michelle's point that he has made it publicly known how incredibly unelectable he is by his own actions - that was very considerate of him to highlight himself to reasonable people so they wouldn't miss his "antics".

Secondly, while there is definitely a religious issue here, and separation of church and state and all that, that VITALLY needs addressed, especially in Oklahoma and most red states (as was pointed out by non-Americans in this thread, this kind of statement would NEVER fly in other western countries), for me, there is a HUMAN element here that should be MORE important to examine. Look at it like a blind taste-test type thing. You put the candidates behind a "curtain" so you don't know their religion or anything else, and have them give a single statement, and "Kill the gays" is behind curtain 2.

Does this not HORRIFY *EVERYONE*, regardless of your religion?! I personally am not even sure I could vote for the death penalty for the most heinous actual crimes, but to me it is UNCONSCIONABLE that anyone in 2014 would say "We really ought to kill X because of their religion/school of thought/romantic and sexual partners". You can argue the broad application of "harmful" (as in, same-sex public affection or marriage is "harmful" to the family unit or the children or America's morals), but homosexuals are not HURTING anyone by EXISTING! They're not molesting or abusing you if you see them kiss or get married or they talk about their lives. There are ex-cons and released murderers living among us, that *might* be deserving of at least the thought of official, "civil" capital punishment for their acts that have DIRECTLY taken or destroyed lives, but even then, who, that calls themselves civilized or a follower of any vaguely "loving" path, could possibly see STONING as a reasonable method?! But bedroom practices and wanting to be with someone who has the same plumbing as you, IT deserves this brutal, barbaric, bloodthirsty, EVIL act? HOW is this still even a DISTANT issue at ALL, let alone something an aspiring REPRESENTATIVE, can say?!

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:29 PM

View PostParanormalcy, on 18 June 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

Secondly, while there is definitely a religious issue here, and separation of church and state and all that, that VITALLY needs addressed, especially in Oklahoma and most red states (as was pointed out by non-Americans in this thread, this kind of statement would NEVER fly in other western countries), for me, there is a HUMAN element here that should be MORE important to examine. Look at it like a blind taste-test type thing. You put the candidates behind a "curtain" so you don't know their religion or anything else, and have them give a single statement, and "Kill the gays" is behind curtain 2.


I have to say, if religion was prohibited from being considered when it comes to our elected officials we wouldn't know what a loon this guy is. I'm not sure I want it completely omitted.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:33 PM

View PostParanormalcy, on 18 June 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

(as was pointed out by non-Americans in this thread, this kind of statement would NEVER fly in other western countries)

Really? It was less than 70 years ago that many people in other western countries were killing people because they were Jewish, homosexual, gypsies, slavic, etc. They went as far as putting them in camps and gassing them.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:33 PM

People settle down... This guy is not a representative of the people of Oklahoma yet. Should he win his office then you may condemn the people of Oklahoma. Anybody, even socially unacceptable people are allowed to run for offices here. As it stands, this guy represents himself and himself only. He is only a candidate and may have never made it that far if this quip had been discovered earlier. To find this horrifying is to be living under a rock. Nobody has to like it but the only confirmation here is that crazy, weird, bigoted people do exist. There really isn't much to see here. Let Oklahoma figure it out. I'm sure they'll give him the gong.

Edited by F3SS, 18 June 2014 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:38 PM

View PostParanormalcy, on 18 June 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

this kind of statement would NEVER fly in other western countries),

Sorry to copy the same little quote Bama but it leads me to a question for Paranormalcy.

Is this flying here? Are Oklahomans rallying in support of this guy since this came to light? If not, then much to the chagrin of our enlightened foreign friends, this statement isn't flying here either.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:44 PM

View PostBama13, on 18 June 2014 - 07:33 PM, said:

Really? It was less than 70 years ago that many people in other western countries were killing people because they were Jewish, homosexual, gypsies, slavic, etc. They went as far as putting them in camps and gassing them.
Yes, and the world (the part of it that likes to call itself Civilised, anyway) has learned since then. This gentleman appears not to have.

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