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5 Reasons That Make It Clear We Are Not Alone


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#1    Sweetpumper

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 03:37 PM

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One of the most popular questions today is “are we alone in the universe?” Believe it or not, you’re in the minority if you believe that absolutely no intelligent life exists in the universe. In the United States alone, at least half of all Americans say that we’re not alone in the universe. Fifty percent of Americans already believe that there is some form of life on other planets, while only seventeen percent think that there isn’t. A quarter of Americans believe that intelligent extraterrestrial visitors have already come to Earth and have been doing so for a long time.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 03:58 PM

I think most here would agree with that, although where the Skeptics of course would differ would be with the quarter who believe that the extraterrestrials have been visiting. i have no opinion one way or the other, of course. :innocent:

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:03 PM

I'm unable to view the link due to being at work, though I am curious about these 5 reasons. If possible could someone copy paste unless it's too long?


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:12 PM

1. The size of the universe.

How big does the universe have to be to have two planets with life on it? No one knows.

2. Whistle Blowers.

Yep, they've seen aliens running around and caused all those scandals which never happened because they're liars.

3. The Evidence of UFO's.

Yes, false radar returns and misidentifications are evidence of UFO's. The article, like all UFO articles, simply recycles UFOlogy's Greatest Hits from the past few decades, most of which have been explained.

4. Mass Mainstream Media Attention.

Yessir, you can't go to the CNN web site without a new revelation about alien life every day. Oh, I just checked and couldn't find anything since the UFO report at O'Hare from over eight years ago. Not exactly Watergate coverage.

5. Personal Experience and Video Footage.

Isn't this the same as #3? Meaning worthless?


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:13 PM

View PostCuriousRey, on 24 June 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

I'm unable to view the link due to being at work, though I am curious about these 5 reasons. If possible could someone copy paste unless it's too long?

The 5 Reasons given are:

1. The Size of the Universe
2. Whistle Blowers
3: The Evidence of UFOs
4. Mass Mainstream Media Attention
5. Personal Experience and Video Footage

None of the reasons make it clear...that we are not alone at all.  You will see I bolded point 1. I agree, as do millions of others, that life most probably exists elsewhere... but there is nothing to suggest its a fact.. Points 2-5 are forever being argued over in forums just like this, and he hasn't presented anything NEW...that anyone here couldn't know about just by reading the threads

Anyway here is the source of the OP's link, it may work for you
http://www.collectiv...n-the-universe/

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:14 PM

The article offers some good circumstantial and anecdotal evidence. That said, such evidence just isn't definitive. So, while I can say it's quite possible that ETs have scoped us out in their UFOs, it's far from being factual. What we need is Hazzard's famous exhibit "A" (a alien space craft or an ET).

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:15 PM

View PostCuriousRey, on 24 June 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

I'm unable to view the link due to being at work, though I am curious about these 5 reasons. If possible could someone copy paste unless it's too long?
It's WAY too long but here are the five: size of the universe, increasing numbers of accredited whistleblowers, physical evidence, mass mainstream media attention to the issue and personal anecdotes and video footage.

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  for what could be, the darkest age...

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:17 PM

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View Postseeder, on 24 June 2014 - 04:13 PM, said:

None of the reasons make it clear...that we are not alone at all.  You will see I bolded point 1. I agree, as do millions of others, that life most probably exists elsewhere... but there is nothing to suggest its a fact..

Don't forget that millions of Americans also believe that Earth is less than 10,000 years old. I don't consider mass agreement to be anything to rely on.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:27 PM

View Postseeder, on 24 June 2014 - 04:13 PM, said:

The 5 Reasons given are:

1. The Size of the Universe
2. Whistle Blowers
3: The Evidence of UFOs
4. Mass Mainstream Media Attention
5. Personal Experience and Video Footage

None of the reasons make it clear...that we are not alone at all.  You will see I bolded point 1. I agree, as do millions of others, that life most probably exists elsewhere... but there is nothing to suggest its a fact.. Points 2-5 are forever being argued over in forums just like this, and he hasn't presented anything NEW...that anyone here couldn't know about just by reading the threads

Anyway here is the source of the OP's link, it may work for you
http://www.collectiv...n-the-universe/

Thanks for everyone who psoted the reasons, and I completely agree that only #1 has any merit whatsoever. I think it is mathematically impossible for their not to be some form of life elsewhere in the universe, however whether or not we will ever find said life or whether that life will be intelligent I guess only time will tell.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:57 PM

For the most part the article regurgitates the likes of Hellyer and Mitchell,neither of which can prove their claims,then on to the dreaded Greer and the National Press Club event which we discussed here recently.The Mexican Air Force video that turned out to be oil platform burn off flares..
It seems that the believers are in a rut and just as the writer of this article proves all we're getting for evidence is repetition of the same old stories,no wonder ufology is dead on its feet


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 05:10 PM

View PostCuriousRey, on 24 June 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

I think it is mathematically impossible for their not to be some form of life elsewhere in the universe,

No, we don't have all the values for all of the variables so there is no mathematical way to determine if it's impossible.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 05:18 PM

View Postscowl, on 24 June 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

No, we don't have all the values for all of the variables so there is no mathematical way to determine if it's impossible.

Touche, well then to reword my earlier statement, In my humble opinion I think it is damned near impossible for there not to be some kind of life out there in the universe besides what we know here on Earth. Just my opinion though! :tu:


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:12 PM

Due to the (reason no 1 ) size of the Universe, it would be extremely frightening to think that we humans are the only " intelligent " beings out here. Surely we are not the most intelligent beings? considering we are now becoming more and more reliant on technology and the intelligent ones are becoming few and far between.

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The chances of there not being intelligent life in the Universe, would be like England being the only decent team in the World cup.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:13 PM

I believe there is life on other planets.    I won't go as far as saying there is intelligent life out there.    I certainly don't believe they have been and are visiting us.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:41 PM

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