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#1    George Ford

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 08:55 PM

The International Association of Exorcists has been formally recognized by the Vatican's Holy See, an indication the Catholic Church approves of the controversial practice of exorcism.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/T.../#ixzz36LY2LrDh

They do say the victim need to be evaluated by a medical specialist first before men wearing dresses can pretend to have magical powers and talk in Latin to mentally ill people.

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Although I have been known to chase 'shadow creatures' round the house with a flashlight so I shouldn't really judge.

Edited by bulveye, 02 July 2014 - 08:56 PM.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 03:28 PM

One backward step to the Middle Ages


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 03:45 PM

Good, maybe they should start with themselves.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 04:16 PM

This could get out of control. Stay tuned.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 07:09 PM

This story reminded me of this for some reason...

https://www.youtube....h?v=gDnE-5lD7w8

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:05 PM

I don't know why we think the modern scientific world view about demons is true.  Our ancestors were not dumb, in fact they may have been  in touch with reality on a deeper level than we in the modern world are.   We now know of the micro world, where there is an almost infinite amount of life, much of it dangerous to humans.  So why not beings who are 'higher' than us.  More intelligent, some evil others good.  Because of their intelligence, when they made their choice for self centered existence, it was total, so they are only concerned with themselves, and those who have given themselves over to evil we call demons.  When in reality, like bacteria and virus they are another form of life.  There is a vast amount of literature that deals with this reality and I don't like it much.  So perhaps we are hunted, sought after to be overtaken and to become their prisoners for eternity if we allow ourselves to become evil like them.

The catholic church is mocked a lot here, and on some grounds it deserves it.  However there is a lot of experience with the demonic within the church, and even though for the last 50 years the church has on many levels sought to distance themselves from this so called 'outmoded idea', yet it is coming back....why.....because the demonic is real, terrifying and exorcism can work, though not in the way Hollywood likes to depict it.   Though I have met intelligent priest who have experienced many strange things from those possessed.

We are a shallow people, we think we know more than we actually do when it comes to the so called paranormal world.....when it fact it is just normal, a very real part of our world.  Today studies are being done to show that reality is wider and deeper than we can know.  I don't expect anyone to change their minds on what I write here, and I hope, no one who mocks such things will ever have to fact such a reality.  For it is vicious, cold, unloving and wishes only to devour.....that is what evil does.

All cultures have stories about intelligent evil, and ways to deal with it.  Like I said, we are very naive, at least in my opinion in our cavalier attitude about what is actually our there.  Also, the world is not much better now than it was in the middle ages.....at least on how we treat each other.  We may have an idea about human values, and human rights, but they seldom reach a level in how we actually treat each other.  The 20th century, which was very secular was the bloodiest we have ever seen, I doubt the 21st will be much different.  Sin is another outmoded idea, as well as the need of grace and mercy.....outmoded means nothing, just a passing long lasting fad of any one culture at any one time.

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Edited by markdohle, 03 July 2014 - 09:09 PM.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:39 PM

I guess priests with good conscience would lament on this. At least some priests have strong humanistic tendencies and they do not like to lean on supernatural miracles.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:44 PM

View Postambelamba, on 03 July 2014 - 10:39 PM, said:

I guess priests with good conscience would lament on this. At least some priests have strong humanistic tendencies and they do not like to lean on supernatural miracles.

The problem my friend is that these tragic events do happen in peoples lives.  Good priest are the ones who deal with it, some to deadly effect on their lives.  We are no more intelligent than our ancestors, though we have more understanding of science, in other areas we are perhaps more deficient.  

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:32 AM

"Father Gabriele Amorth who claims that he has performed more than 160,000 exorcisms."

At a rate of one per day, that would be 438 years of exorcisms for Father Gabriele.  Just sayin'


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:14 AM

View PostMisterMan, on 04 July 2014 - 12:32 AM, said:

"Father Gabriele Amorth who claims that he has performed more than 160,000 exorcisms."

At a rate of one per day, that would be 438 years of exorcisms for Father Gabriele.  Just sayin'

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:31 AM

I think maybe 20 percent of exorcisms are real the other 80 percent is just mental illness


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:43 PM

Jesus cast out devils. If possession is real, I'm sure we all can think of at least one person in our lives that need theirs exorcised.


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:06 PM

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:49 PM

View PostMisterMan, on 04 July 2014 - 12:32 AM, said:

"Father Gabriele Amorth who claims that he has performed more than 160,000 exorcisms."

At a rate of one per day, that would be 438 years of exorcisms for Father Gabriele.  Just sayin'

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 04:07 PM

They should recognize it they been performing exorcism for years so why is this news. Half the world is infected with evil spirits and most don't know it.

Edited by slaughtr, 16 July 2014 - 04:07 PM.






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