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#1    Sweetpumper

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 05:18 PM

Revealed: The UFO files of the German Secret Service

Posted by: Andreas Muller July 10, 2014 0 2,527 Views
Saarbrucken (Germany) – For several decades, German government officials have claimed there was never an official interest in investigating or studying the topic of unidentified flying objects (UFOs). But now, the editor of the German news-blog on frontier sciences and the paranormal “www.grenzwissenschaft-aktuell.de” (GreWi.de), Andreas Muller, was able to access formerly secret UFO-files compiled by the German foreign secret intelligence agency “Bundesnachrichtendienst” (BND), which tells a complete different story.

http://www.openminds...t-service/28870

Das Rundschreiben enthält Information über deutsche UFO-Dateien 'n Zeug. Die Information ist nicht Rat, und sollte nicht als solcher behandelt werden.'
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:43 AM

View PostSweetpumper, on 11 July 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:


The most interesting case of the sightings of an exotic UFO by four officials happened in 1986 on Fehmarn, Germany's third biggest island in the Baltic Sea

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5) All officers were unable to give any description about size, shape and colour of the flying object. This was due top the following reasons:

1)The night was pitch dark.

2)The object emitted such a radial blinding illumination/light, that the above mentioned observations were impossible to make out. One officer even speculated that the this illumination could have been switched on with the intention to avoid an identification, as the used light was neither that of navigation lights nor flood lights, as no directed cones of light went downwards.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:35 AM

Real interesting link!

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:48 AM

View PostSweetpumper, on 11 July 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

  

Das Rundschreiben enthält Information über deutsche UFO-Dateien 'n Zeug. Die Information ist nicht Rat, und sollte nicht als solcher behandelt werden.'
'Ohne Vorurteil zur Allgemeinheit des vorhergehenden Paragraphen vertritt Sweetpumper nicht, bevollmächtigt, übernimmt oder versichert ..., dass die Information im Rundschreiben richtig, genau, abgeschlossen oder nichtirreführend ist.'
'Sweetpumper wird zu Ihnen in der Rücksicht auf jeden speziellen, indirekten oder folgenreichen Verlust oder Schaden nicht verantwortlich sein.'

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 04:50 PM

I'm more disturbed that Germany still has a Secret Service.











What, too soon?

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 06:12 PM

UFOs of the alien variety or of the Cold War attack / surveillance variety?


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 03:44 AM

Many  governments all over the world have secret flies and know that ufos are real but people still don't bevielle in them.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 03:46 AM

View Postcoolguy, on 15 July 2014 - 03:44 AM, said:

Many  governments all over the world have secret flies and know that ufos are real but people still don't bevielle in them.

Of course UFOs are real. Nobody has ever denied that.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 03:56 AM

View Postcoolguy, on 15 July 2014 - 03:44 AM, said:

Many  governments all over the world have secret flies and know that ufos are real but people still don't bevielle in them.

Can you provide proof of this, please?

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 04:57 AM

View PostHida Akechi, on 15 July 2014 - 03:56 AM, said:

Can you provide proof of this, please?

This fellow never, or rather rarely, responds to such other sensible requests. The MO seems to drop in with some utterly ridiculous comment that is at best irrelevant or blatantly ignorant. The purpose of this seriously eludes me.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:27 AM

UFO's are real... by definition. People still associate the term with Alien.
I've said before in other forums, It should be changed to WTF's. :yes:

It's good to have some skepticism so you won't be gullible & naïve. But to much skepticism
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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:31 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 15 July 2014 - 04:57 AM, said:

This fellow never, or rather rarely, responds to such other sensible requests. The MO seems to drop in with some utterly ridiculous comment that is at best irrelevant or blatantly ignorant. The purpose of this seriously eludes me.

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So what if he rarely responds. Is he hurting anybody? is he rude to anybody? He simply stated his view....I understood it. He doesn't have to prove anything to anybody.
I was not aware that responding to every post and proving everything that one puts forth was a prerequisite of this forum :huh:

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:35 AM

View PostAstra00, on 15 July 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

So what if he rarely responds. Is he hurting anybody? is he rude to anybody? He simply stated his view....I understood it. He doesn't have to prove anything to anybody.
I was not aware that responding to every post and proving everything that one puts forth was a prerequisite of this forum :huh:

He in fact didn't state anything but the obvious. UFOs exists, nobody has ever denied that - nor has anybody ever denied that Governments keep secrets. That said, can you in your own words explain the meaning of his post to me. Because his posts mostly seem to be seagull posts (if not all). Please do explain why I am wrong, as the poster in question seem unable to himself.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:45 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 15 July 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:

He in fact didn't state anything but the obvious. UFOs exists, nobody has ever denied that - nor has anybody ever denied that Governments keep secrets. That said, can you in your own words explain the meaning of his post to me. Because his posts mostly seem to be seagull posts (if not all). Please do explain why I am wrong, as the poster in question seem unable to himself.

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You seem to have it covered in regards to what he stated.....no need for me to elaborate.
It seems to bother you more than me thus far.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:49 AM

View PostAstra00, on 15 July 2014 - 05:45 AM, said:

You seem to have it covered in regards to what he stated.....no need for me to elaborate.
It seems to bother you more than me thus far.

Because there is nothing you can elaborate on, but in your own words, if you could, what would it be - assuming that you were not sarcastic?

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