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California drought sees dowsers in demand


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 02:58 PM

Dowsers have been seeing a lot of work lately thanks to a third consecutive year of drought.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:27 PM

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:30 PM

Desperate times, desperate measures.  Time for scientists and inventors to step up to the plate with effective small-scale solutions.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:53 PM

Witchcraft and Quackery,desalination plants may have to be considered in the future if they can come up with ways to reduce high running costs.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:58 PM

How would they expect a dead twig would know the way to water?  After all it's dead, yes?  Apparently it didn't know its way to water whilst it was still alive.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:05 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 12 July 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Witchcraft and Quackery,desalination plants may have to be considered in the future if they can come up with ways to reduce high running costs.

Desalination plants, yes. Witchcraft and other forms of woo, no.
Sadly when most people don't know what else to do then they resort to woo and pseudo "science".


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:52 PM

View PostSaraT, on 12 July 2014 - 06:58 PM, said:

How would they expect a dead twig would know the way to water?  After all it's dead, yes?  Apparently it didn't know its way to water whilst it was still alive.

You bring up a specific point believe it or not unknown to you.

The dowser that trained me ( in a castle off the grid ) so no confusions over emf etc - said don't try to do this when you have just drank water. The thirstier you are the better it works, no one knows why, it just is.. I wasn't using wood sticks btw i was using copper rods that are very conductive to my energies and what i am intentionally programming for. The whole point is intention via a conduit.

That is what works.

You see the twigs as dead, i don't. They are thirsty and their plant consciousness which operates more openly than we even know how to, knows innately where moisture/water is.

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 03:22 AM

View PostbLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 12 July 2014 - 10:52 PM, said:



You bring up a specific point believe it or not unknown to you.

The dowser that trained me ( in a castle off the grid ) so no confusions over emf etc - said don't try to do this when you have just drank water. The thirstier you are the better it works, no one knows why, it just is.. I wasn't using wood sticks btw i was using copper rods that are very conductive to my energies and what i am intentionally programming for. The whole point is intention via a conduit.

That is what works.

You see the twigs as dead, i don't. They are thirsty and their plant consciousness which operates more openly than we even know how to, knows innately where moisture/water is.

My first thought is "cool story bro" haha, but i saw it done once and was impressed by the results, so it will get no argument from me.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 03:30 AM

When I was a child, we relied on my grandfathers skill as a dowser to find water for us, which had we not had, we would have either relocated (not an option at the time) or suffered horribly, perhaps even died.
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:35 PM

View PostbLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 12 July 2014 - 10:52 PM, said:


The whole point is intention via a conduit.

That is what works.

You see the twigs as dead, i don't. They are thirsty and their plant consciousness which operates more openly than we even know how to, knows innately where moisture/water is.
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good point Blue.
with water being the absolute prerequisit for life on earth, doesn't it make sense that we would evolve a way of sensing it to ensure our continued existence....
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 02:05 PM

Here's a challenge to the debunkers:

Get two wire coat-hangers, a pair of wire cutters,and a couple of wide drinking straws. Cut the bottom straight length from each hanger. Bend both of the straight pieces of wire, roughly at the halfway point,90 degrees to form a right angle. Cut the straws to where, when you hold them in your hands,they barely show at either end. Now, put one of the wires in each straw. (The purpose of the straw is to allow the wire freedom of movement without the person holding it influencing that movement in any way).

Now, go outside--to your back yard, an empty field--some place where you have freedom of movement. Hold the wires, inserted in the straws, loosely, one in each hand. If the area you chose to walk has buried electrical cables, gas lines, water pipes, or a natural underground water source, as you walk, the rods will start to move. When they cross, or point away from each other (without any input from you), you can rest assured that you've just located one of the things mentioned above. If you continue walking the area, you can begin to "map" the source.

Try it. If it doesn't work at the first location, try one where you know there's an underground pipeline. It will work. It ain't voodoo, folks. My guess is that it has something to do with electromagnetism. Most wire coat-hangers are made of steel--they're magnetic.

Instead of blowing it off, spend a little time experimenting. You'll surprise yourself.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 04:57 PM

This challenge has already been done. James Randi did extensive experiments on dowsing and wrote large articles on the results of the experiments.

Summary: it didn't work and it doesn't work. No professional dowsers were ever able to find any water in controlled conditions.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 05:05 PM

View Postccc, on 13 July 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

It ain't voodoo, folks. My guess is that it has something to do with electromagnetism. Most wire coat-hangers are made of steel--they're magnetic.

Do you know how a compass works? It detects Earth's magnetic field to locate north (more or less). Incredibly they continue to do this even when near water sources.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 05:28 PM

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Do you know how a compass works? It detects Earth's magnetic field to locate north (more or less). Incredibly they continue to do this even when near water sources.
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CCC didn't mention compass' Scowl, just electromagnetism.
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 05:35 PM

View Postccc, on 13 July 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:



Instead of blowing it off, spend a little time experimenting. You'll surprise yourself.
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i've been dowsing for years CCC, and have somewhere around an 80% success rate.
how does it work? dunno.
i can't include electromagnetism, as i dowse using a pendulum, asking it questions, so i'm not really sensing electromagnetism caused by water moving through rock.
all i can say is that it (usually!) works for me....
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