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Finding Life Beyond Earth is Within Reach

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#16    Sundew

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 06:13 PM

View Postancient astronaut, on 16 July 2014 - 11:30 PM, said:

They are gonna need Jodie Foster to find it.

Better her than John Hurt!


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 08:17 PM

View PostSundew, on 17 July 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

Better her than John Hurt!
No doubt!!

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:50 AM

They might not have found what their looking for but they have learned vast amounts of information about our surroundings and that is in itself a leap for man kind. :)


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 03:27 AM

replace 'find' by 'reveal' and  we're good.


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:42 PM

View Postjarjarbinks, on 18 July 2014 - 03:27 AM, said:

replace 'find' by 'reveal' and  we're good.

?? :huh: ??

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 04:25 AM

I have absolutely no doubt that indisputable proof of extra terrestrial life exists and is being kept secret by NASA, the Vatican, and other secretive government sects. There are a few reasons why it hasn't been disclosed by NASA. Firstly, because of money. Think of all the government grants, and all of the people who have spent their entire careers and lives in the pursuit of this existential quest. Now consider the dollars that are being allocated to continue that pursuit.  The one thing that could possibly put an end to the massive amount of money being granted to universities and Nasa would be a successful mission accomplished.  An excommunicated catholic priest, Bruno, was burned at the stake as a heritic by the Vatican for his beliefs in a life-filled universe beyond Earth just a few centuries ago. Now, within the last year, the Vatican announces it is accepting and anticipating proof any day of Bruno's theory of a universe filled with multitudes of life beyond Earth and is ready to accept all God's creatures, regardless of their universal origin, thus completely reversing a penultimate doctorine practiced for over 1000 years. Why the sudden change? I pose this question to the most cynical of sceptics, do you have any idea what the odds are that this planet Earth was just a fluke? Just think about the changes and diversity of life that has taken place on Mother Earth over 4 Billion years. There have been multiple mass extinctions which at times,  99% of all life was extinguished,  yet life thrives. Life is an innate,  unstoppable force of the utilization of energy and thermodynamics of the universe.  If Nasa is promising it will find life within 20 years, rest assured, they've already found proof 20 years ago.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 01:19 AM

View PostA non-sheeple people, on 19 July 2014 - 04:25 AM, said:

I have absolutely no doubt that indisputable proof of extra terrestrial life exists and is being kept secret by NASA, the Vatican, and other secretive government sects. There are a few reasons why it hasn't been disclosed by NASA. Firstly, because of money. Think of all the government grants, and all of the people who have spent their entire careers and lives in the pursuit of this existential quest. Now consider the dollars that are being allocated to continue that pursuit.  The one thing that could possibly put an end to the massive amount of money being granted to universities and Nasa would be a successful mission accomplished.

I know you think this makes sense but it really doesn't.  First of all the only scientific program actively seeking proof of extraterrestrial life is SETI and they are privately funded.  Second, if proof of life was found funding would go up, not down because people would be clamoring to know more, to possibly communicate etc.  They aren't clamoring for the scientific discoveries present funding is programmed fr.

View PostA non-sheeple people, on 19 July 2014 - 04:25 AM, said:

An excommunicated catholic priest, Bruno, was burned at the stake as a heritic by the Vatican for his beliefs in a life-filled universe beyond Earth just a few centuries ago. Now, within the last year, the Vatican announces it is accepting and anticipating proof any day of Bruno's theory of a universe filled with multitudes of life beyond Earth and is ready to accept all God's creatures, regardless of their universal origin, thus completely reversing a penultimate doctorine practiced for over 1000 years. Why the sudden change?

The church changes doctrine all the time and is simply coming in-line with current scientific theory.  The big trigger for all this is Kepler's discovery of so many, many more earth like inhabitable planets than originally thought. Regardless, Bruno was hundreds of years ago and the church is NOT proclaiming universe filled with multitudes of life, they are simply stating that the possibility of life elsewhere is now likely.  I think you are simply combining two of your CT obsessions here.

View PostA non-sheeple people, on 19 July 2014 - 04:25 AM, said:

I pose this question to the most cynical of sceptics, do you have any idea what the odds are that this planet Earth was just a fluke? Just think about the changes and diversity of life that has taken place on Mother Earth over 4 Billion years. There have been multiple mass extinctions which at times,  99% of all life was extinguished,  yet life thrives. Life is an innate,  unstoppable force of the utilization of energy and thermodynamics of the universe.  If Nasa is promising it will find life within 20 years, rest assured, they've already found proof 20 years ago.

I know of only one skeptic here that says there is no chance of life existing elsewhere.  One.  All the rest believe that life off-planet is likely to very-likely.  You obviously don't keep up with science or you'd know all this activity is because of the discovery that earth-like planets in the inhabitable zone are common, not rare as we thought just a year ago.  Kepler has changed the paradigm.

If you are truly interested in this stuff then I suggest you stop visiting CT sites and start following real science sites like those offered by NASA and all the universities you condemn.

Edited by Merc14, 20 July 2014 - 01:20 AM.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 04:10 AM

Alien life forms nearer to Earth could be animals and plants. The nearest intelligent life who might even look human could be at a medieval stage and not in any way able to pick up or respond to any signals.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 04:46 AM

View PostRose-Red Howler, on 20 July 2014 - 04:10 AM, said:

Alien life forms nearer to Earth could be animals and plants. The nearest intelligent life who might even look human could be at a medieval stage and not in any way able to pick up or respond to any signals.

More likely bacterial and I wouldn't be surprised to see it in our solar system.  At that moment of discovery the biggest debate will be about panspermia. I just hope it happens in my lifetime and I feel confident it will (sorry scowl).  I can't wait for the James Webb ST.

edit:  Just wanted to say I am not looking forward to the JWST to discover life,  I am looking forward to it because I believe it will change much of our understanding of the universe, just as the Hubble did ..if it works.  It is a helluva dangerous mission.

Edited by Merc14, 20 July 2014 - 05:00 AM.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 11:56 AM

If alien life is bacterial then NASA might need to invent an enormous space microscope.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:17 PM

Just think of that alien tech!

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 01:41 PM

I've seen Nasa's approach while looking for signs of past life on Mars! Numerous questionable evidence that should have warrant the rover to stop and analyze more, have been simply disregarded. They won't find life in 20 year unless some fundamentals in their approach should change.


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 12:17 AM

View Postqxcontinuum, on 26 July 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

I've seen Nasa's approach while looking for signs of past life on Mars! Numerous questionable evidence that should have warrant the rover to stop and analyze more, have been simply disregarded. They won't find life in 20 year unless some fundamentals in their approach should change.


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 01:33 AM

I think some forms of life exist on many earth-like planets in the galaxy, but intelligent, technologically capable species existing at this moment are few. Taking into account favorable geology of the planet and the probabilities of the evolution of intelligent life (very low, in my opinion), the chance of discovering an extraterrestrial civilization comparable or more advanced than ours is not very likely.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:42 AM

View PostRose-Red Howler, on 20 July 2014 - 04:10 AM, said:

Alien life forms nearer to Earth could be animals and plants. The nearest intelligent life who might even look human could be at a medieval stage and not in any way able to pick up or respond to any signals.

You might also consider geomicrobes interesting to consider as i did...

BRINGING DARK LIFE TO LIGHT...

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The stunning realization that up to half of life on Earth may exist underground has transformed biologists thinking about the origin and evolution of life here and on other planets. The search for dark life could go to new depths at a proposed underground laboratory.

What makes people think that life had to go underground? Pedersen says. Maybe the question is...When did life go to the surface? When was life strong enough to leave the safe and protective underground with no wind, solar radiation, or thunderstorms?
http://www.symmetrym...k-life-to-light

The same question might be asked ,  " when did life leave the surface and become airborne?  When did life leave the planet?  
What lies above the suface of the night sky?"

Perhaps curiosity is a compelling force of mankinds nature, but is the answer to the question really of such vital significance?  What would it mean if we found an apple tree growing on another planet.   Should we eat the fruit thereof?  




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