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Two Malaysian 777's = Russian Payback 101

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#1    Raptor Witness

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:33 AM

It seems more than coincidence that two U.S. made Boeing 777's, belonging to Malaysian Air would crash in a row like this.

Rather than a conspiracy per se, my guess would be more along the lines of Russian payback for sanctions.

It's like having two wives fall down the stairs to their death, and expecting a jury to believe there's no motive to be found.

I don't care if the "separatists" pushed the button, I think Russia was calling the shots, in order to send a powerful message.

If you f _ _ k with our business, we are going to _____ you up.

Anyone who thinks that President Putin is a ***** cat that can be placed in his crate, while the real people board the plane, is not watching the ball.

My advice to President Obama is to send our troops back into Iraq to act as a counterweight in the region, ASAP.

This guy thinks he's Gog and Magog, which means we must play the opposite hand he expects U.S. to.

Call his bet ... because he's not bluffing, I can assure you.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:39 AM

To be fair....how wold knocking 'merican made planes owned and operated by another independent and sovereign nation be anything but good for 'merica?

Now they need to buy more of our planes = we win.

Now we have righteous indignation at an attack on innocents = we win.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:48 AM

View Postbubblykiss, on 18 July 2014 - 05:39 AM, said:

To be fair....how wold knocking 'merican made planes owned and operated by another independent and sovereign nation be anything but good for 'merica?

Now they need to buy more of our planes = we win.

Now we have righteous indignation at an attack on innocents = we win.

Nobody cares about Malaysia. Few Americans even know where it is. It's the perfect helpless toy to play with.

Edited by Raptor Witness, 18 July 2014 - 05:49 AM.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 06:38 AM

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What the hell would Rooty Tooty Pooty have had to do with MH370? Come on, try to use some sense. And Pooty decided to shoot down two Malaysian planes to get back at America simply because they were American built? Even by your usual standards, that makes even less sense than usual.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 06:41 AM

And all of a sudden you're an enthusiast for American imperialism? Have you been possessed by the spirit of Dick Cheney?

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 06:43 AM

View PostAdmiral Rhubarb, on 18 July 2014 - 06:38 AM, said:

What the hell would Rooty Tooty Pooty have had to do with MH370? Come on, try to use some sense. And Pooty decided to shoot down two Malaysian planes to get back at America simply because they were American built? Even by your usual standards, that makes even less sense than usual.


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 07:10 AM

Well, thats an absurd claim.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 10:49 AM

I will agree it sounds absurd.

BUT the only reason I think there could be a slight possibility IF we go with the conspiracy theory, is: out of the countries who have planes flying, Malaysia would be one of the last to attack, no matter who made the planes, so the threat to someone of importance would seem minimal. But on that theory, surely the threat should have been heightened after the last Malaysian catastrophe IF that is the case.

But its IS a conspiracy theory and so is the payback for sanctions theory.

I still go with the - they warned not to fly that way and would have blown anything out of the sky or anyone which did not listen. ...my only confusion is why did the plane go that way after the warnings?


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:00 PM

The Malaysian flight manifest reported 23 Americans on board that plane. - source

Putin stated these words Wednesday night concerning the American sanctions: “I have already said they tend to have a boomerang effect, and without any doubt, in this case they are driving Russian-American relations to an impasse, causing very serious damage,” Mr. Putin said, according to a Kremlin transcript. “And I am convinced that this is harmful to the national long-term strategic interests of the American state, the American people.” -source

And let's not forget about Obama's last little sneaky executive order banning ALL Russian made AK-47's and other Kalashnikov Russian-made imports.

Coincidence? I think not.


Edited by BiffSplitkins, 18 July 2014 - 12:03 PM.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:14 PM

i think it is coincedence, putin says what anyone would say in his situation. i do not see how it connected to any of 2 malasian planes

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:16 PM

View Postaztek, on 18 July 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:

i think it is coincedence, putin says what anyone would say in his situation. i do not see how it connected to any of 2 malasian planes
I just stated some facts. Those facts don't look too good under the circumstances. I am only referring to the one recent plane. I'm 99% sure that aliens had something to do with the other missing one. :whistle:

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:25 PM

View PostBiffSplitkins, on 18 July 2014 - 12:00 PM, said:

The Malaysian flight manifest reported 23 Americans on board that plane.
Putin stated these words Wednesday night concerning the American sanctions: “I have already said they tend to have a
boomerang effect, and without any doubt, in this case they are driving Russian-American relations to an impasse, causing
very serious damage,” Mr. Putin said, according to a Kremlin transcript. “And I am convinced that this is harmful to the national
long-term strategic interests of the American state, the American people.” -source
And let's not forget about Obama's last little sneaky executive order banning ALL Russian made AK-47's and other Kalashnikov
Russian-made imports. Coincidence? I think not.
I would call that reading pareidolia.
Ok, Russia had been sanctioned and P. isn`t happy about that. But are you really under the impression that
the ordered, as a reaction to this sanktions, to bring down 2 commercial airplanes with civilians as an act of
payback or as a pressurizing argument for sanktion related negotiations in future? I`m sorry, but that is just
a paranoid idea. Putin might be a beast, but he isn`t such stupid, absolutely not.

Edited by toast, 18 July 2014 - 12:27 PM.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:44 PM

Why is this absurd conspiracy theory in this section of the forum?

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 01:07 PM

View PostBiffSplitkins, on 18 July 2014 - 12:00 PM, said:

The Malaysian flight manifest reported 23 Americans on board that plane. - source

Putin stated these words Wednesday night concerning the American sanctions: “I have already said they tend to have a boomerang effect, and without any doubt, in this case they are driving Russian-American relations to an impasse, causing very serious damage,” Mr. Putin said, according to a Kremlin transcript. “And I am convinced that this is harmful to the national long-term strategic interests of the American state, the American people.” -source

And let's not forget about Obama's last little sneaky executive order banning ALL Russian made AK-47's and other Kalashnikov Russian-made imports.

Coincidence? I think not.

So rather than (say) planting a bomb on an American plane (since we know the TSA is so efficient that they wouldn't have a hope of getting one through), they put a crack team of KGB agents onto scanning the passenger lists of every single flight that was scheduled to pass through Russian airspace, found one with some Americans on board, and decided to blow that out of the sky to teach America a lesson. Yup, makes sense to me.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 02:30 PM

View PostRaptor Witness, on 18 July 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:


I don't care if the "separatists" pushed the button, I think Russia was calling the shots, in order to send a powerful message.

If you f _ _ k with our business, we are going to _____ you up.

View PostRaptor Witness, on 18 July 2014 - 05:48 AM, said:

Nobody cares about Malaysia. Few Americans even know where it is. It's the perfect helpless toy to play with.

So... It sends a powerful message to blow up an American assembled plane flying from somewhere no one cares about and might not even know where it is? That does not make sense.

Your ad hominem connotes your sciolism. Now that is some funny commentary.





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