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Quantum bounce could make black holes explode

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#1    Waspie_Dwarf

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:08 AM

Quantum bounce could make black holes explode
If space-time is granular, it could reverse gravitational collapse and turn it into expansion.


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Black holes might end their lives by transforming into their exact opposite 'white holes' that explosively pour all the material they ever swallowed into space, say two physicists. The suggestion, based on a speculative quantum theory of gravity, could solve a long-standing conundrum about whether black holes destroy information.

The theory suggests that the transition from black hole to white hole would take place right after the initial formation of the black hole, but because gravity dilates time, outside observers would see the black hole lasting billions or trillions of years or more, depending on its size. If the authors are correct, tiny black holes that formed during the very early history of the Universe would now be ready to pop off like firecrackers and might be detected as high-energy cosmic rays or other radiation. In fact, they say, their work could imply that some of the dramatic flares commonly considered to be supernova explosions could in fact be the dying throes of tiny black holes that formed shortly after the Big Bang

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:33 AM

....or it could just be the effects of Hawking's 'apparent' event horizon...?
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Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:23 AM

Past the idea that explosions only occur in the presence of oxygen, I get very lost.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 02:30 PM

View PostSaraT, on 21 July 2014 - 01:23 AM, said:

Past the idea that explosions only occur in the presence of oxygen, I get very lost.
If you believe that explosions only occur in the presence of oxygen then you are lost a lot earlier than you think.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 11:46 AM

So it's knid of like a hard night of drinking.  You suck down some beer and hard liquor....and after what seems like forever, you spew it all over the place.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:15 PM

Would this explain the earlier article stating there is more light than can be accounted for?


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 02:41 PM

View PostMac E, on 22 July 2014 - 11:46 AM, said:

So it's knid of like a hard night of drinking.  You suck down some beer and hard liquor....and after what seems like forever, you spew it all over the place.

A discusting analogy, but an analogy nonetheless. Haha.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:02 PM

SaraT I think that you're thinking of regular campfires.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:05 PM

I say we should have a new category of logic:

Quantum Logic- Makes perfect sense on some level despite totally flipping everything you thought you knew on its head.



If "doh" can make it into the dictionary....

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:09 PM

So black holes are hot dense banks that store everything placed within them and spew them out upon collapsing... anyone else instantly arrive at a porn analogy?

or

Information in the form of radiation is able to escape from black holes? So black holes represent faceless gov't's attempting to keep secrete all of their information. But as they age they break down allowing secretes to flow out, much as informers do in overly large, overly complex systems of gov't?


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:20 PM

hmmm... and suddenly we discover that the big bang just was one of a series of big bangs....

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:07 PM

Am a believer in the multiverse, black holes are just returning are universes energy back there, I've always thought of it that are universes matter is just broken back down to pure energy and thrown back to the multiverse to be reused.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:17 PM

That made my head hurt, and it's not just the hangover this time.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:52 PM

View PostCalibeliever, on 22 July 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

That made my head hurt, and it's not just the hangover this time.

Don't worry, should it happen in our galaxy it will take ~27,000 years before we notice it did and a few more hangovers before we can kiss our butt goodbye.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:05 PM

I've always imagined a white hole is the other end of a black one.....if it goes in, it's got to come out somewhere......so the black is the mouth hole, and the white is the a*se hole.





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