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#1    OverSword

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:43 PM

Tired of waiting for the Feds to step up, Rick Perry has decided to use his powers as Governor of Texas to send 1,000 National Guard troops to the Texas, Mexico border to help stem the flow of illegal aliens.  This is likely just a pre-presidential run stunt IMO, but at least some body is trying to do something.

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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — The governor of Texas, a vocal critic of the White House's response to the surge of children and families entering the U.S. illegally, plans to deploy as many as 1,000 National Guard troops to the Texas-Mexico border, a lawmaker confirmed Monday.
Gov. Rick Perry, who is mulling a second presidential run after his 2012 bid flamed out in a series of public gaffes, over the weekend questioned President Barack Obama's commitment to securing the border and said Texas would do so if the federal government did not.
State Rep. Terry Canales said he was briefed by his staff Sunday following a conference call with the governor's office, the Texas National Guard and the state Department of Public Safety. Perry's office hasn't commented, but he is scheduled to make the announcement Monday afternoon at the state Capitol in Austin.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:47 PM

Lets see how long he can pay for it (beyond the novelty effect).

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:53 PM

It'll be cheaper than what all the illegals will cost.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:01 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 21 July 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

It'll be cheaper than what all the illegals will cost.

I tend to doubt that, we are not talking about millions of people crossing over the Texas border. Alone the one day activation for the papal visit in San Antonio (1987) cost $102,117. Add inflation and you will have a good per diem.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

Too little, too late. The damage has been done, time to manage it. Should impeach Obama, then fine and shamed both George W. Bush and Obama for neglecting their duty to the nation for political gain. Set an example for the next president. Protect our borders or face the same fate.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:36 PM

HOUSTON, Texas--The U.S. Senate Appropriations Subcommittee approved a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) budget for Fiscal Year (FY) 2015 that includes $5.508 billion for Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations. Included in that amount is more than $87 million for the transportation of illegal immigrants--most often via plane--from the U.S.-Mexico border to federal facilities around the nation.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:43 PM

IF Perry finds a way to keep those numbers there for a long while, or if they become too effective too quickly I would expect Oby to impede his use of them legally (or illegally) by some executive mechanism.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:58 PM

View Postand then, on 21 July 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

IF Perry finds a way to keep those numbers there for a long while, or if they become too effective too quickly I would expect Oby to impede his use of them legally (or illegally) by some executive mechanism.
  

He can always nationalize the guard.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:45 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 21 July 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

HOUSTON, Texas--The U.S. Senate Appropriations Subcommittee approved a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) budget for Fiscal Year (FY) 2015 that includes $5.508 billion for Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations. Included in that amount is more than $87 million for the transportation of illegal immigrants--most often via plane--from the U.S.-Mexico border to federal facilities around the nation.


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That is pennies compared to what America spends on other things.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:04 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 21 July 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

HOUSTON, Texas--The U.S. Senate Appropriations Subcommittee approved a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) budget for Fiscal Year (FY) 2015 that includes $5.508 billion for Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations. Included in that amount is more than $87 million for the transportation of illegal immigrants--most often via plane--from the U.S.-Mexico border to federal facilities around the nation.


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Well, that would be about $12.5 billion less than during FY 2012, guess Texas will need to deploy some National Guard to make up their part of the missing billions....

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:16 PM

View PostUncle Sam, on 21 July 2014 - 08:45 PM, said:

That is pennies compared to what America spends on other things.
I need to correct you.  That is pennies compared to what America borrows on other things.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:17 PM

I'm fine with him spending state money to build his own fence if he wants it too.  Not that I think that neither the national guard nor a fence would solve the illegal immigration problem.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:28 PM

View PostGromdor, on 21 July 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

I'm fine with him spending state money to build his own fence if he wants it too.  Not that I think that neither the national guard nor a fence would solve the illegal immigration problem.
Actually G I think it could.  It hasn't really been tried so no one knows for sure.  Solving the problem of illegals isn't so difficult if everyone got serious about it.  I'd say everyone's attention will be exquisitely focused the day after a mass casualty event from someone who came in quietly across said border.  It would cost billions and it would require ongoing expense but it can be done.  Of course it could also be accomplished by getting serious about not hiring non citizens.  THAT is the true answer but business people in the states don't like to talk about that...it seems like a dirty little secret.  It gets down to $, will and votes for the whores in congress.
edit:  I want to apologize to all the working girls - I'm sorry to compare hardworking people to those in congress :)

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:31 PM

View Postand then, on 21 July 2014 - 10:28 PM, said:

Actually G I think it could.  It hasn't really been tried so no one knows for sure.  Solving the problem of illegals isn't so difficult if everyone got serious about it.  I'd say everyone's attention will be exquisitely focused the day after a mass casualty event from someone who came in quietly across said border.  It would cost billions and it would require ongoing expense but it can be done.  Of course it could also be accomplished by getting serious about not hiring non citizens.  THAT is the true answer but business people in the states don't like to talk about that...it seems like a dirty little secret.  It gets down to $, will and votes for the whores in congress.

That is the only key to the problem. As long as some people can make a living being illegal in the country, no matter how high the fence and how many goons you have patrolling along it nothing will change. But that is the part nobody wants to change.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:35 PM

Bush built a 700 mile fence starting in 2006.  Eight years later and no one seems to want to publicize how effective it was.  It's not like the data is not there.





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