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#1    RoofGardener

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:30 AM

Yup.... those Zionist Killer Mad Dogs of the Israeli Defence Force have bombed ANOTHER hospital.

What sort of barbarians target hospitals ? They should be decapitated on the floor of the United Nations.

Except... except... is it live, or is it Pallywood ? Because the IDF have released aircraft camera footage of people firing machine guns out of the hospital window. Oh... and a strange tunnel entrance just next to the hospital.

Once bombed, a strange thing happened. After a couple of minutes of fire, there where a series of secondary explosions... BIG ones. Way bigger than medical supplies 'cooking off', or gas bottles exploding.

Yup... you got it.. the hospital (which had been emptied of patients and medical staff, and the IDF phoned to CHECK that fact) was being used as a HAMAS control centre and munitions storage depot.

In a separate incident, 12 HAMAS soldiers where caught driving around Gaza in.... AN AMBULANCE.

Here's a link to an article about the above, courtesy of News for Jews. (as EoT would probably put it).

So, the NEXT time we hear about Israel committing 'atrocities', its worth stopping and asking... is this REAL, or is it Pallywood ?

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:38 AM

There's nothing lower than using children and sick people as shields.

Sadly, it becomes very difficult to know what's real in these situations vs what's being media produced.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:51 AM

Ah, do i detect more of your heavy duty sarcasm here?

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:55 AM

Who did the IDF phone? did they look up the number in Yellow Pages? "Oh, er, hi, just wanted to check if you were actually still a hospital, or whether you were now being used as a fortress by Terrorists? Ok, great. wait there, we'll be with you as soon as possible."

Anyway, if it had been emptied of patients, they weren't being used as human shields, were they. if the Terrorsts really were as utterly ruthless as IDF TV makes out, surely they'd have kept the patients there.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:03 AM

View PostAdmiral Rhubarb, on 24 July 2014 - 09:55 AM, said:

Who did the IDF phone? did they look up the number in Yellow Pages? "Oh, er, hi, just wanted to check if you were actually still a hospital, or whether you were now being used as a fortress by Terrorists? Ok, great. wait there, we'll be with you as soon as possible."

Anyway, if it had been emptied of patients, they weren't being used as human shields, were they. if the Terrorsts really were as utterly ruthless as IDF TV makes out, surely they'd have kept the patients there.

The IDF phoned the director of the hospital, as is explained in the linked story.
I never discussed human shields The initial headlines when this hospital was attacked where full of outrage against Israel for "bombing a hospital". My point is ... "wait...don't rush to judgement... get the full story."

"We rejected freedom yesterday, we rejected freedom today and we reject your freedom tomorrow," Sufyan Bada, "moderate" Australian Muslim Leader, commenting on the Charlie Hebdo murders and the concept of "freedom of speech". So when they come for YOUR freedom, you can't claim you didn't know what they stood for.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:03 AM

View PostLilly, on 24 July 2014 - 09:38 AM, said:

There's nothing lower than using children and sick people as shields.

Sadly, it becomes very difficult to know what's real in these situations vs what's being media produced.
What?   Where did that come from?   You just jump to that conclusion.  Roof says something about a hospital and whoa la, they're hiding behind the children again!  Seriously?  

There's no medical staff there, there are no injured people there --> Surprise, it's not a hospital.

It's a building that was a hospital that gunmen are using to defend Gaza with.   A factoid being twisted into a mess of a story and lead people like you to believe they're hiding behind sick people.  That's mission accomplished for them.   Don't be so eager to buy a good bs story.    A gunman in a window "launching an attack" with his machine gun, like he's the one invading somewhere!    He's shooting at invaders who've "launched the attack" into Gaza and are now right outside the building in the street.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:08 AM

View PostAdmiral Rhubarb, on 24 July 2014 - 09:51 AM, said:

Ah, do i detect more of your heavy duty sarcasm here?
It's just a gaping hole where compassion goes to die.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

It is news by the Jews.So before you label it as Pallywood you has to be sure it wasn't meant for propaganda purpose

Edited by jeem, 24 July 2014 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:16 AM

What was their excuse for bombing the power station?Only 10% of residents are receiving electricity.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:23 AM

I'm shocked that both sides in this conflict are using propaganda to try to elicit sympathy from the international community for their "position".

Shocked, I tell you!

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:30 AM

View PostRoofGardener, on 24 July 2014 - 09:30 AM, said:

In a separate incident, 12 HAMAS soldiers where caught driving around Gaza in.... AN AMBULANCE.
Huh?

I see [Two terrorists] have left the location and get into the ambulance.  One [terrorist].  Two.  Two terrorists.  Ahahaha.  The captions read like they're narrated by The Count on Sesame St.   Terrorists?   Where did that come from?    Another guy gets into the ambulance, wearing white.  Maybe he's a doctor.  Those "terrorists" can't be helping him or anything.   Oh but the doctor is Hamas too because he's in a ****g ambulance with someone from Hamas!   We all know that Hamas is in charge of the government, and we act surprised when they start allocating resources to defend themselves.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:34 AM

View PostYamato, on 24 July 2014 - 10:03 AM, said:

  Don't be so eager to buy a good bs story.  

You completely disregarded the second part of my quote:

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Sadly, it becomes very difficult to know what's real in these situations vs what's being media produced.

I stand with my basic sentiment...If anyone is using innocent civilians to hide behind then they are indeed the lowest of the low.

Edited by Lilly, 24 July 2014 - 10:35 AM.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:51 AM

View PostYamato, on 24 July 2014 - 10:03 AM, said:

It's a building that was a hospital that gunmen are using to defend Gaza with.  
I wonder what happened to the medical staff and the sick, dying and injured patients after they took the hospital over?  :innocent:

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:00 AM

View PostYamato, on 24 July 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

Huh?

I see [Two terrorists] have left the location and get into the ambulance.  One [terrorist].  Two.  Two terrorists.  Ahahaha.  The captions read like they're narrated by The Count on Sesame St.   Terrorists?   Where did that come from? Another guy gets into the ambulance, wearing white.  Maybe he's a doctor.  Those "terrorists" can't be helping him or anything.   Oh but the doctor is Hamas too because he's in a ****g ambulance with someone from Hamas!   We all know that Hamas is in charge of the government, and we act surprised when they start allocating resources to defend themselves.

Yamato, I would have thought it was obvious that Ambulances are NOT supposed to be used for military purposes, and that includes transportation.
(correction: it CAN be used for transporting 'soldiers', but only if they are hors-de-combat).

If HAMAS terrorists are going to use Ambulances for personal transport (presumably to avoid being targeted by the IAF), then they can't subsequently cry crocodile tears when ALL ambulances become targets !

As for 'two vs twelve' ... I think we are talking about two separate incidents ?

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:09 AM

What about them other hospitals? ...

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