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#1    acidhead

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:59 PM

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:11 PM

As far as I am aware, the identity of the kidnappers and murderers of the 3 Israeli students has not been resolved, so Hannity's accusation regarding this item is merely repeating biased media speculation.

He also brushes over the historical basis of the conflict to focus purely on the present, in doing so ensuring he puts all the blame on the Palestinians. This is not to say they don't share blame with the Israeli's regarding the conflict, but his questioning is leading at best.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:25 PM

Notice how he was demanding yes or no answers to his loaded questions?  Then he freaked out and cut off the guest.........fair and balanced my azz.



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:17 PM

You're right acidhead, "Hamas is a terrorist organization" is the only supposition that can logically justify Israel's tyranny.   It's analogous to the UK going into Palestine in 1945 and annihilating women and children in close proximity to Likud by way of a 7-year long military siege, and based on the average human lifespan - endless bombing campaigns and ground invasions.

Oh no, listen.  I hear the Statists coming already to tell me that it wasn't a State and so it doesn't matter.  

There are no people under their government; there is only government; there is only state.   Defending Israel is a universe where Government Will is G-d.   So what better cop-out than to blame the other guy's religion?

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:34 PM

View Postacidhead, on 27 July 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Notice how he was demanding yes or no answers to his loaded questions?  Then he freaked out and cut off the guest.........fair and balanced my azz.
I have no idea if Hannity is a Christian Zionist or not.  I've never heard him say so.  Have you?  He IS a rude, loud idiot of a TV host but that can be said of nearly every personality on MSNBC for example so I'm not sure what your point is here.  Oh yeah, painting all Christian Zionists as being angry, loud and irrational, how could I miss it :)

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:12 AM

View Postand then, on 27 July 2014 - 11:34 PM, said:

I have no idea if Hannity is a Christian Zionist or not.  I've never heard him say so.  Have you?  He IS a rude, loud idiot of a TV host but that can be said of nearly every personality on MSNBC for example so I'm not sure what your point is here.  Oh yeah, painting all Christian Zionists as being angry, loud and irrational, how could I miss it :)

That is Fox News not MSNBC.   I don't don't watch either one. I just finished reading "935 Lies" by Charles Lewis.  If read that book you wouldn't watch them either. We are being lied to and bamboozled by all of them.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:19 AM

It is difficult to find a mainstream news service so regularly and consistently called out on misrepresenting, exaggerating, or outright lying, about news as Fox News.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:50 AM

Faux New isn't news it is entertainment.  All of them are really. Best thing I ever did was dump the cable and sat.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:51 AM

View Postaquatus1, on 28 July 2014 - 12:19 AM, said:

It is difficult to find a mainstream news service so regularly and consistently called out on misrepresenting, exaggerating, or outright lying, about news as Fox News.
The charge being made in the OP is that all Christian Zionists are like this idiot on Fox news.  It's a pretty broad and deceptive brush he's swinging, no?

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:00 AM

View Postand then, on 28 July 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

The charge being made in the OP is that all Christian Zionists are like this idiot on Fox news.  It's a pretty broad and deceptive brush he's swinging, no?

God must be a real estate agent, eh?



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:11 AM

View Postand then, on 28 July 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

The charge being made in the OP is that all Christian Zionists are like this idiot on Fox news.  It's a pretty broad and deceptive brush he's swinging, no?

Are you reading some charge I'm not seeing?  Acidhead didn't say anything in his OP.  It's a pretty constant aspect of his topics.  He even extends it to many of his posts.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:33 AM

View Postand then, on 28 July 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

like this idiot on Fox news.
"This idiot on Fox News" hosts the #1 rated cable news program in his time slot.  

http://www.mediabist...ategory/ratings

Now unless you want to make the argument that Sean Hannity is a worse than average pundit, you've just admitted that the American people are getting their news from idiots.   Is it any wonder why they're so misinformed with distortion and appeasement?

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:50 AM

View Postaquatus1, on 28 July 2014 - 01:11 AM, said:



Are you reading some charge I'm not seeing?  Acidhead didn't say anything in his OP.  It's a pretty constant aspect of his topics.  He even extends it to many of his posts.

LOL.... that was low... but slick.... nice.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:45 AM

View PostYamato, on 27 July 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

You're right acidhead, "Hamas is a terrorist organization" is the only supposition that can logically justify Israel's tyranny.   It's analogous to the UK going into Palestine in 1945 and annihilating women and children in close proximity to Likud by way of a 7-year long military siege, and based on the average human lifespan - endless bombing campaigns and ground invasions.

Oh no, listen.  I hear the Statists coming already to tell me that it wasn't a State and so it doesn't matter.  

There are no people under their government; there is only government; there is only state.   Defending Israel is a universe where Government Will is G-d.   So what better cop-out than to blame the other guy's religion?
Oh good grief! Next you'll be saying that the Israelis are decendents of a European religious sect that moved into Palestine and established a colony on Palestinian land, brushing the Palestinians aside. You'll probably point out that they are dealing with the Palestinians the same way all European colonists have dealt with native populations. What a vivid imagination you have.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:00 PM

View PostJohn Wesley Boyd, on 28 July 2014 - 03:45 AM, said:

Oh good grief! Next you'll be saying that the Israelis are decendents of a European religious sect that moved into Palestine and established a colony on Palestinian land, brushing the Palestinians aside. You'll probably point out that they are dealing with the Palestinians the same way all European colonists have dealt with native populations. What a vivid imagination you have.



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