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#16    Sucksquach

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:08 PM

Better if we see heaven on Earth with our simple joys, and one person's view of it as "real" could be troublesome.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:42 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 01 August 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

Jesus was from the house of David and David was described as ruddy,red headed?

But doesn't the Bibical genealogy give his being David's descendant on Joseph's side?

If Joseph wasn't the father of Jesus, then there is no line from David.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:29 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 01 August 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

Jesus was from the house of David and David was described as ruddy,red headed?


1 Samuel 16:12 "And he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy and had beautiful eyes and was handsome. And the LORD said, "Arise, anoint him, for this is he." - Holy Bible; English Standard Version.[36] 1 Samuel 17:41-43 "And the Philistine moved forward and came near to David, with his shield-bearer in front of him. And when the Philistine looked and saw David, he disdained him, for he was but a youth, ruddy and handsome in appearance."[


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David

The thing with the bible is that verses can be open to interpretation. The Mormons for example refer to John 10:16
that Jesus came to the Americas after his resurrection. But other Christian denominations don't recognize that claim.
And the Jehovah's Witness have this belief that only 144,000 will go to heaven according to their interpretation of
Revelation 7:1-9.

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But to much skepticism can make you narrow minded to extraordinary possibilities.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 11:20 PM

All I can say if that's how Jesus really looked like, no wonder all those women were following him:) I still believe he was a monk from the Essenes who gave a wonderful message of  a truth and a  comfort .

Edited by docyabut2, 01 August 2014 - 11:35 PM.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 11:54 PM

It could be that Jesus can take on whatever form he chooses in heaven. He might have looked completely different in his earthly form.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 12:01 AM

View Postdocyabut2, on 01 August 2014 - 11:20 PM, said:

All I can say if that's how Jesus really looked like, no wonder all those women were following him:) I still believe he was a monk from the Essenes who gave a wonderful message of  a truth and a  comfort .

I don't doubt the existence of Jesus. I think he was a humble man that spread wisdom to the people.
But the catholic church and other religions that followed embellished his life. Emperors and Kings
such as Constantine and James exaggerated his life by mixing truth with myth. Just my opinion.

   It's good to have some skepticism so you won't be gullible & naïve.
But to much skepticism can make you narrow minded to extraordinary possibilities.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 12:20 AM

View PostArbenol68, on 01 August 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:

But doesn't the Bibical genealogy give his being David's descendant on Joseph's side?

If Joseph wasn't the father of Jesus, then there is no line from David.

According to St. Luke, Mary was a cousin of Elizabeth, wife of the priest Zechariah of the priestly division of Abijah, who was herself part of the lineage of Aaron and so of the tribe of Levi.[Luke 1:5;1:36] Some of those who consider that the relationship with Elizabeth was on the maternal side, consider that Mary, like Joseph, to whom she was betrothed, was of the House of David


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:45 AM

View Postdocyabut2, on 01 August 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

Jesus was from the house of David and David was described as ruddy,red headed?
No wonder Jesus came back as a zombie, gingers don't have souls.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:02 AM

Of course we have souls, we steal them from other people. lol

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 06:16 AM

I know there is a lot of controversy on Colton's vision and accusations on his parents profiting from the book and movie.
But I wonder...If the Burpos gave the majority of those profits to charity and kept just enough to pay off their debts,
would that lessen the controversy?

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But to much skepticism can make you narrow minded to extraordinary possibilities.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 12:41 PM

And yet if it were any other 13 year old talking about a life changing experience when they were 3, they'd be laughed off stage and not taken seriously.  But since it's jesus, the christians fall all over themselves about it.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 12:47 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 01 August 2014 - 11:10 AM, said:

Jesus was from the house of David and David was described as ruddy,red headed?


1 Samuel 16:12 "And he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy and had beautiful eyes and was handsome. And the LORD said, "Arise, anoint him, for this is he." - Holy Bible; English Standard Version.[36] 1 Samuel 17:41-43 "And the Philistine moved forward and came near to David, with his shield-bearer in front of him. And when the Philistine looked and saw David, he disdained him, for he was but a youth, ruddy and handsome in appearance."[


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David

English Standard Version

Well here is your clue.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:00 PM

View PostRafterman, on 02 August 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

And yet if it were any other 13 year old talking about a life changing experience when they were 3, they'd be laughed off stage and not taken seriously.  But since it's jesus, the christians fall all over themselves about it.

Crazy, isn't it? :td:

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:14 PM

So does that make Jesus a ginger?

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:23 PM

Id love to think that Heaven is for Real as People i 'LOVE' are there (hopefully). I cant imagine this life with out something else to come after! I am not religious, in any way, but do believe in God! Or a something! But, I have to believe in heaven , have to believe in something.... Otherwise....?


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