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#1    reidh

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:17 PM

The bible clearly states that once you die you go to your judgement, and that is it.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:33 PM

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The bible is a book written by men,I don't believe in ghosts but I wouldn't use a holy book to prove their non existence.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:34 PM

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And you know this because some novel written by man says so?


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:41 PM

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The Bible also states there are windows in the sky.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:47 PM

Doesn't the bible also say something about being respectful to your neighbours goat?

I don't know, iv'e never read it.

Nobody knows what ghosts are for certain, i like to think we carry on another existence after death, perhaps as pure energy..somehow..somewhere..

Who knows, we will all find out one day so lets not argue about it..LOL

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 03:32 PM

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View PostRlyeh, on 01 August 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

The Bible also states there are windows in the sky.
And has a talking donkey in it.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 03:44 PM

View Postreidh, on 01 August 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

The bible clearly states that once you die you go to your judgement, and that is it.

Welcome to UM reidh :st  Please, read the site rule, check out some threads, and enjoy your time here :)

I'm not sure you are accurate with your comment. After all, Lazarus and Jesus were resurrected, and the bible mentions folks being raised for final judgement at the second coming.

Your ad hominem connotes your sciolism. Now that is some funny commentary.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 03:49 PM

It must be true because the BuyBull is from the ultimate authority.

Numbers 11:1-2 (KJV)

1 And when the people complained , it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled ; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp. 2 And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the LORD, the fire was quenched .

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31 And there went forth a wind from the LORD, and brought quails from the sea, and let them fall by the camp, as it were a day's journey on this side, and as it were a day's journey on the other side, round about the camp, and as it were two cubits high upon the face of the earth. 32 And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp. 33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed , the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague. 34 And he called the name of that place Kibrothhattaavah: because there they buried the people that lusted .

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 03:52 PM

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And has a talking donkey in it.


A lot of them. lol

Saying there are no ghost is a bit narrow minded. We don't know if they exist or that their just figments of our imaginations.

As for God's great power, I really want to see stuff like that. Parting of the sea, etc. Yet there is nothing like that in this day, if there ever was at all.

We're all living in a world filled with moderately stupid people.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:02 PM

View PostXenoFish, on 01 August 2014 - 03:52 PM, said:

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As for God's great power, I really want to see stuff like that. Parting of the sea, etc. Yet there is nothing like that in this day, if there ever was at all.

Nature is behind the parting of the seas, somehow someone attributed it to a "god", I call that naivety, others call it religion.
But here, this is for you, we do have it today, but no doubt will offend  if we can give an explanation to the "moses" theory by explaining it as part of nature.




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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:06 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 01 August 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

The Bible also states there are windows in the sky.

"There are holes in the sky where the rain comes in,
They're not very big - that's why rain is thin!"

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:44 PM

Given that we perceive with our senses less than 1% of the energy in the universe...
It's natural for me to be agnostic about this stuff... so much out there beyond my perception.  I've also never felt like the universe was such a place, that I should expect to understand it all.

I've experienced a few genuinely unexplainable things, I have no idea what caused them nor what they were... and I'm fine with that.
Some day I might figure it out, or not, either way, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I do have the benefit of having no fear of death.  Mind you, I'm not crazy about the potential manner of my death, which could suck.  But after a few experiences starting from age four... death has no teeth.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:53 PM

The night my wife died, her friend's granddaughter got up in the morning all excited at having been visited by my wife.  My wife's friend told her no she hadn't come to visit and told her she had died last night. The little girl insisted that she was there and had ask her to give me this bear she had in her room that said "I love you" on it.  They called me right away and said they were coming over.  They told me the story and gave me the bear.  I have no doubt that dear child saw my wife that night.
Later. I was telling a "friend" who is a fundamentalist Christian about it and he got all excited and said that wasn't my wife, it was a demon. Yup he was serous,  a demon gave me a teddy bear.  Believe as you will.  I'll tell you, to this day that was the cruelest thing anyone has ever said to me.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:59 PM

View PostJesseCuster, on 01 August 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

And has a talking donkey in it.

Don't forget the unicorns.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 06:05 PM

View Postreidh, on 01 August 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

The bible clearly states that once you die you go to your judgement, and that is it.


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