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#1    Sweetpumper

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:50 PM

Leading skeptic Brian Dunning, of the popular Skeptoid podcast, has this week been sentenced to 15 months in a Federal prison for defrauding eBay of hundreds of thousands of dollars. His incarceration will begin on September 2.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 08:11 PM

See, Evil those skeptics are!


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 08:14 PM

ha! Another Skeptic down! Like how they got Al Capone for tax evasion, the important thing is that they got him in the end,




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Posted 08 August 2014 - 08:16 PM

You're in the no humor zone. Stop that.

What a charlatan and liar. It seems he's all about money.

Edited by Sweetpumper, 08 August 2014 - 08:57 PM.

"At it's most basic level, science is supposed to represent the investigation of the unexplained, not the explanation of the uninvestigated." - Hunt for the Skinwalker

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:37 PM

He was arrested and charged in 2013 I think. The Business Insider wrote an extensive article about it: http://www.businessi...g-2013-4?page=1

Well, for sure it's kind of ironic for someone involved in the skeptics movement and advocating against frauds in the paranormal. He ended up doing just that.

Edited by sam_comm, 08 August 2014 - 11:46 PM.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:43 PM

Yes...the perfect cover

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:47 PM

At least he did not make it reading palms or cards, or doing " psychic readings "......

Now, they should be in prison....

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:51 AM

A blog with a lot of details
http://skepchick.org...gs-explanation/

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 02:22 AM

clearly "the man" hacked into his computer and placed information there to incriminate him.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 03:12 PM

View PostSakari, on 08 August 2014 - 11:47 PM, said:

At least he did not make it reading palms or cards, or doing " psychic readings "......

Now, they should be in prison....

It does not really matter, fraud is fraud. The cover used to accomplish it, 'paranormal' or not is irrelevant, in this case he used Ebay and unsuspecting people by putting a cookie stealthily on their computers to make money. While palm or card readings may be ethically questionable, it's not considered illegal. People pay for a controversial service they should be aware is not backed up by any science.

I read on the skepchick blog that he's planning to resume his Skeptoid podcast as soon as he's out of prison. That can only undermine the credibility of the skeptics movement in my view.

Edited by sam_comm, 09 August 2014 - 03:37 PM.


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Posted 10 August 2014 - 05:13 PM

View Postsam_comm, on 09 August 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

It does not really matter, fraud is fraud. The cover used to accomplish it, 'paranormal' or not is irrelevant, in this case he used Ebay and unsuspecting people by putting a cookie stealthily on their computers to make money. While palm or card readings may be ethically questionable, it's not considered illegal. People pay for a controversial service they should be aware is not backed up by any science.

I read on the skepchick blog that he's planning to resume his Skeptoid podcast as soon as he's out of prison. That can only undermine the credibility of the skeptics movement in my view.


I understand. But, if fraud is fraud ( like I was saying ) why do these " psychics " not get charged. The do not even use hidden cookies, they have websites.

Both are wrong.

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 06:44 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 08 August 2014 - 08:16 PM, said:

You're in the no humor zone. Stop that.

What a charlatan and liar. It seems he's all about money.

Like most of the guys doing the ufo circuit then.

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 08:49 PM

Oh! the Dark side Brian he uses He dose ! Use the Force Spetics !

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:06 AM

View PostSakari, on 10 August 2014 - 05:13 PM, said:

I understand. But, if fraud is fraud ( like I was saying ) why do these " psychics " not get charged. The do not even use hidden cookies, they have websites.

Both are wrong.

Selling a controversial service is not neceserily illegal. If people go willingly to consult a self-proclaimed psychic (and there are many who do so, even very educated people) that's entirely up to them. Wether or not the psychic has any kind of real supernatural ability is, without proof, a matter of personal belief. That's where the ethical debate takes place. But what's illegal is exploitation and extortion of money. So called ''psychics''  are arrested and charged on a regular basis for preying on vulnerable people. They've stolen the money, through means of manipulation or coercion.

See for exemple:

http://www.lasvegass...d-fraud-charge/
http://www.ktvz.com/...y-feds/26597658
http://doubtfulnews....0k-from-victim/
http://freethoughtbl...iminal-charges/

Edited by sam_comm, 11 August 2014 - 01:25 AM.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:41 AM

View PostSweetpumper, on 08 August 2014 - 08:16 PM, said:

You're in the no humor zone. Stop that.

What a charlatan and liar. It seems he's all about money.

Normally just the realm of UFOlogists we know, this guy ran a scam, got caught.

Shame they could not find any flaws in his skeptical arguments. Yes, scumbags exist on both sides of the fence, this is a shock to some people???? Never heard the phrase "There is one in every crowd"?

Good God, hundreds of UFOlogists outright make crap up and lie to people's faces to rip them off, and even in some cases kill them. One skeptic gets caught scamming a HUGE organisation, and you think this means UFO's are now all alien spaceships????? Like you never pinched something from KMart when you were a kid and told yourself "It's alright, they are a HUGE company and won't miss this tiny little thing - but they DID".

Thing is, this man has been caught, and is being punished. Imagine if every UFOlogists that lied, ripped people off and even killed others had to face the music? There would not be enough prisons. Just the AA Vandals alone would fill them up.

Yeah, he is a charlatan and a liar, don't trust ANYTHING he has to say about EBay. We all warm and fuzzy now?

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