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#1    LucidElement

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 07:53 PM

Maliki, Prime Minister of Iraq has just announced he will step down to a new Prime Minister. What will this mean for Iraq and ISIS? New leadership, any chance of turning it around or is ISIS spread way to much... maybe the new PM can figure out or has a new gameplan?

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 07:57 PM

Whoever would want to take over from him? Or will ol' Bagdadi just save a lot of everyone's time and put himself forward and be done with it?

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 08:48 PM

It was implied that the US might more forcefully intervene on behalf of Iraq if Maliki were gone.

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 02:55 AM

Maliki was part of the issue that ISIS started. Maliki didn't want any Sunni's or Kurds into his government. It upset everyone.  this new Prime Minister Al-Abadi has a new take on how the country will try to be ran, (so i've hard). Also heard that U.S will work with Abadi  to help establish peace or more organization..

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 04:19 AM

I really hope the new PM actually is a visionary and can see the potential his people have if they have a strong leader to follow

Orrrr he will just be one of the usual SOB in the region

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 05:36 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 15 August 2014 - 04:19 AM, said:

I really hope the new PM actually is a visionary and can see the potential his people have if they have a strong leader to follow

Orrrr he will just be one of the usual SOB in the region
I think they have named a Kurd.  He is bound to be better than Maliki.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 12:22 AM

I think Haidar al-Abadi is a Shiite.  It would be nice if he were Kurd, they seem to be the only ones really fighting ISIS.

Hopefully this man will run a more inclusive government.  Lack of such is partly why ISIS was able to take over so easily.  That and Iraq's military sucked.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 03:34 AM

View PostAshotep, on 16 August 2014 - 12:22 AM, said:

I think Haidar al-Abadi is a Shiite.  It would be nice if he were Kurd, they seem to be the only ones really fighting ISIS.

Hopefully this man will run a more inclusive government.  Lack of such is partly why ISIS was able to take over so easily.  That and Iraq's military sucked.

http://www.firstpost...pm-1660123.html
Thanks for the correction Ashotep.  I'm not sure where I read he was a Kurd but apparently I misunderstood.  Now it makes more sense that Iran would be supportive of him.  I wondered why they would have embraced a Kurd.  They have no love lost between them.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 06:17 AM

View PostLucidElement, on 15 August 2014 - 02:55 AM, said:

Also heard that U.S will work with Abadi  to help establish peace or more organization..

Thats a comforting thought.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 02:20 PM

View Postacidhead, on 16 August 2014 - 06:17 AM, said:

Thats a comforting thought.
As opposed to what alternative?  Nice snarky little comment, but not very practical or humane really.  America SCREWED UP on Iraq.  Now our fine friends around the globe can stand back and point the finger and FOREVER tell us how evil we are.  Until, of course, they need us again.

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:04 AM

I think acid head makes a good point. The US has no real interest in helping Iraq, only to run Iraq.

The proof is in the pudding, do you think that American involvement in taking out Saddam helped the Iraq people?

The biggest no-brainer I ever asked lol

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:43 AM

Dr. Haider al-Malidi is an Engineer who learned his craft in England.  If only the US had engineers running for highest offices instead of lawyers.

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 12:24 AM

View PostEarl.Of.Trumps, on 19 August 2014 - 06:04 AM, said:

I think acid head makes a good point. The US has no real interest in helping Iraq, only to run Iraq.

The proof is in the pudding, do you think that American involvement in taking out Saddam helped the Iraq people?

The biggest no-brainer I ever asked lol
I'm not sure how a western mindset could have really understood the potential chaos that would be unleashed by removing the "lid" from such a contained evil.  Now that we do understand, we have tired of trying to re-contain it.  Problem is that we now have no real choice.  We will either destroy IT or it will destroy US.  This danger isn't about numbers any longer, Earl... it's about a flashpoint of ideologies that is primed for a massive explosion.  Nothing less than a modern version of the Crusades - and Jerusalem is at the heart of it all again.  Only the Grail this time for the west is oil - not religion.  But for the Muslims it is still about religion.  That does not bode well at all for us in the west.

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 02:17 AM

Don't know how any western mindset could have understood the potential chaos by invading Iraq in 2003?

Ron Paul predicted the ensuing chaos!

WATCH THE FOLOWING VIDEO:

Ron Paul discusses the Iraq War and his litmus test for war.

Ron Paul on C-SPAN: Feb. 6, 2003



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Posted 22 August 2014 - 04:29 AM

View Postacidhead, on 22 August 2014 - 02:17 AM, said:

Don't know how any western mindset could have understood the potential chaos by invading Iraq in 2003?

Ron Paul predicted the ensuing chaos!

WATCH THE FOLOWING VIDEO:

Ron Paul discusses the Iraq War and his litmus test for war.

Ron Paul on C-SPAN: Feb. 6, 2003


Hardly... I'll admit that he was more prescient than those making the policies at the time, but not even he understood just how tangled it all was PRIOR to the troops going in.    The current conflict is about a fringe of violent observers of Islam.  Anyone who believes otherwise is, imo, deluding themselves.  One can sit back and take shots at the leadership, vilifying them for decisions made but the current reality is pretty darned grim and "I told you so" really doesn't matter, you know?   When these animals begin to filter back to their respective countries we are going to start to see mayhem at home.  And the ones who I feel badly for are those Muslims who are genuinely peaceful.  They are going to catch hell in small (and not so small) towns all over this country the next time we have a 9-11 style event.

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