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Gov. Rick Perry of Texas Is Indicted


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:49 AM

The NY Times said:


AUSTIN, Tex. — A grand jury indicted Gov. Rick Perry on two felony counts on Friday, charging that he abused his power last year when he tried to pressure the district attorney here, a Democrat, to step down by threatening to cut off state financing to her office.

The indictment left Mr. Perry, a Republican, the first Texas governor in nearly 100 years to face criminal charges and presented a major roadblock to his presidential ambitions at the very time that he had been showing signs of making a comeback.

Grand jurors in Travis County charged Mr. Perry with abusing his official capacity and coercing a public servant, according to Michael McCrum, the special prosecutor assigned to the case.

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Guess we wont see him in the '16 primaries....

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 12:19 PM

This looks like some House of Cards stuff. A whopper out of nowhere. What's the difference between this and threats of a pen and a phone up on The Hill?


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 01:40 PM

Our current president does this kind of thing all the time.  Too bad Perry can't play the race card.

His critics asserted that he used that power as leverage to try to get an elected official —Rosemary Lehmberg, the district attorney in Travis County — to step down after her arrest on a drunken-driving charge last year.

Wow, Shame on Rick Perry. :innocent:

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 04:39 PM

So basically he defunds her department if she doesn't quit and that's illegal because it is coercion of a public official?  How is that different from the cries to defund the IRS if Lois Lerner doesn't testify?


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 04:44 PM

View PostGromdor, on 16 August 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

So basically he defunds her department if she doesn't quit and that's illegal because it is coercion of a public official?  How is that different from the cries to defund the IRS if Lois Lerner doesn't testify?

In that, by defunding the IRS, they won't have any tax revenue to spend on the cellar sauna?

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 05:19 PM

I guess the powers that be weren't pleased with his decision to theatrically do nothing about illegal immigration.  Either that or it's really coincidental timing.


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 05:32 PM

View PostWickian, on 16 August 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

I guess the powers that be weren't pleased with his decision to theatrically do nothing about illegal immigration.  Either that or it's really coincidental timing.

It is coincidental timing. If Perry wanted to defund the Texas Dept. of Agriculture nobody would have given a rusty nail but he was defunding the 3d arm of government, the judicial. And that makes it interesting.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 05:45 PM

View PostOverSword, on 16 August 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

Our current president does this kind of thing all the time.  Too bad Perry can't play the race card.

His critics asserted that he used that power as leverage to try to get an elected official —Rosemary Lehmberg, the district attorney in Travis County — to step down after her arrest on a drunken-driving charge last year.

Wow, Shame on Rick Perry. :innocent:
I find it incredible that there is no rule that she didn't HAVE to be removed after such an indiscretion.  How can she be in charge of an office that prosecutes citizens for the very crime she herself committed?  Don't get me wrong, I don't believe a single DUI is or should be a career ender but in most cases for many professions - it is.  Whatever happened to leading by example?

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 06:15 PM

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ind it incredible that there is no rule that she didn't HAVE to be removed after such an indiscretion.  How can she be in charge of an office that prosecutes citizens for the very crime she herself committed?

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:23 PM

View PostGromdor, on 16 August 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

So basically he defunds her department if she doesn't quit and that's illegal because it is coercion of a public official?  How is that different from the cries to defund the IRS if Lois Lerner doesn't testify?
Simple, the later was a THREAT while the former something he actually did.
It's the difference between saying "bugger off or I'll break you're nose" and actually breaking someone's nose.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 10:26 PM

I don't think he did anything wrong...sorry.

I'm not a fan of his, but this woman needed to be removed from office...no it is not ok for a public official in her position to get slap @ss drunk and act the fool.  Want to see the videos?

This is NOT acceptable for a District attorney.



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The country prosecutor where I live got caught up in a domestic violence charge and violated a restraining order.  The county had to hire special prosecutors to handle all kinds of domestic violence cases while he is going through his trial.  This is taking months.  The special prosecutors are costing the country tens of thousands of dollars.  They have asked him to resign to save the county money and he has refused...repeatedly.  The county has now passed a resolution to have him removed from office...and I agree with them.

People in these positions should be held to a different standard...if they cannot measure up...they need to be big about it and step down.  

Being put in the position that someone has to remove you or force your resignation does not speak well of someone's character when considering the facts of the cases involved.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:10 PM

I tend to agree with Jerimiah. While Perry may have technically committed a crime it really just looks like politics. It doesn't even look like dirty politics but if it is it's really small potatoes in the world of dirty politics where technical crimes and backstabbing are just part of the game. Seriously, worse things happen everyday in politics. For a sudden and swift grand jury indictment to pop out of nowhere I think Perry p'd off the wrong guy.


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:24 PM

View PostF3SS, on 16 August 2014 - 11:10 PM, said:

I tend to agree with Jerimiah. While Perry may have technically committed a crime it really just looks like politics. It doesn't even look like dirty politics but if it is it's really small potatoes in the world of dirty politics where technical crimes and backstabbing are just part of the game. Seriously, worse things happen everyday in politics. For a sudden and swift grand jury indictment to pop out of nowhere I think Perry p'd off the wrong guy.
Like the District Attorney ;)

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 12:04 AM

I don't really know much about the case, but a good friend of mine is a died in the wool flaming liberal judge in Arkansas and even he says the whole thing is BS.  That's about all I need to know.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 12:43 AM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 16 August 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

Like the District Attorney ;)

Yea but he's the governor. I'm thinking someone higher up the chain on the Hill or a player behind the scenes. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy but if there is that is what I think it'd be. Headlines like this don't just pop up everyday. Maybe it's been news in Texas but Perry is a well known and recognized politician and there would normally be a scandalous build up in the national news for something like this. Then again, maybe I missed it but it looks like everyone else has too. Just seemed to come out of nowhere.





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