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#1    mister

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 04:59 PM

Hello World. Any coders out here in UM? I'm just looking to meet some fellow coders to chat with about stuff. If we can exchange emails that'd be cool. :)


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:53 PM

I'm currently completing my Computer Science degree so I guess I'm doing a bit of code here and there. Currently pursuing some projects in collaboration with a friend and those of myself for iOS devices. I haven't been as engaged with a programming language or IDE like objective-c and XCode before. On that note, what is your favourite language and IDE?


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:40 PM

Hey there Orcseeker. I like web apps, so my favorite would be javascript/PHP, python, and ruby. Although I'm still learning python and I've only taken a glimpse at ruby. For Javascript I like notepad++ and eclipse.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 05:26 PM

Guess I can't help you then as my 'expertise' is in rather older but very efficient methods...such as assembler.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

What's up questionmark. If you know about oop design patterns we may have a thing or two to chat about.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 01:05 AM

View Postmister, on 18 August 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

Hey there Orcseeker. I like web apps, so my favorite would be javascript/PHP, python, and ruby. Although I'm still learning python and I've only taken a glimpse at ruby. For Javascript I like notepad++ and eclipse.

Ah yes I do a bit of that myself as well as java. I also use the same combo you're using there too.

View Postquestionmark, on 18 August 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Guess I can't help you then as my 'expertise' is in rather older but very efficient methods...such as assembler.

Do you use the easy68k assembler or?


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 02:13 AM

++coder;

View Postquestionmark, on 18 August 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Guess I can't help you then as my 'expertise' is in rather older but very efficient methods...such as assembler.
inc coder ;

Once you can code, everything else is pretty much syntax.


View PostOrcseeker, on 18 August 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

On that note, what is your favourite language and IDE?
Language-wise: HTML5 + Javascript client-side / C# server-side.

IDE-wise: Visual Studio.

The answer to both used to be Borland Delphi, but I sold my soul to Microsoft pretty much after they bought Anders Hejlsberg.


View Postmister, on 17 August 2014 - 04:59 PM, said:

I'm just looking to meet some fellow coders to chat with about stuff. If we can exchange emails that'd be cool. :)
Far too time-crushed for emails. Currently working 18+ hour days and starting work for a new startup, next month.

Feel free to throw some questions around in-thread, however, and I'll pitch in, occasionally.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 10:09 AM

View PostTiggs, on 19 August 2014 - 02:13 AM, said:

++coder;


inc coder ;

Once you can code, everything else is pretty much syntax.


I am pretty aware of that, the point is every time I use a compiler I start to get angry about wasted space, inefficient recursions, slow execution that I go back to assembler (yes, you can even program Windows under assembler), most tools are free (hardly anybody would buy an assembler anyway nowadays). Only if I need a complicated GUI I use C or C++ because it is very painless to inline a large assembler program into the frame (of some compilers, I must add)

Other programming tools I use occasionally is LISP and PROLOG but generally end up getting very frustrated if the data amount starts to get large... it ends up being real Spaghetti that needs forever to execute.

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 01:04 PM

I'm currently doing a master's degree in computer science, but the thought of coding for a living really worries me, I wonder what level of expertise and skill is required to do this every day.

I'm not bad, but I'm not 'confident', always happens to me, back in high school, I thought my bachelor's degree is impossible, when I completed my bachelors', I thought masters would be too hard, and now I'm a year away from completing my masters and it seems like software development jobs must be really hard.

One key factor is that I don't really have a passion for coding, per se, I never enjoyed it, I've always felt like it was work.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 03:44 PM

View PostCrow T. Sharkbot, on 19 August 2014 - 01:04 PM, said:

I'm currently doing a master's degree in computer science, but the thought of coding for a living really worries me, I wonder what level of expertise and skill is required to do this every day.

I'm not bad, but I'm not 'confident', always happens to me, back in high school, I thought my bachelor's degree is impossible, when I completed my bachelors', I thought masters would be too hard, and now I'm a year away from completing my masters and it seems like software development jobs must be really hard.

One key factor is that I don't really have a passion for coding, per se, I never enjoyed it, I've always felt like it was work.

I understand what you mean completely. I was really leaning towards getting a job doing project management for software development. But then I tried out an iPhone course at my university. The assignments just needed to fit some constraints but otherwise you were left to your own creativity.

Ever since then if I've been making programs myself. I have started to really enjoy coding. A step out of the uninspired day to day course outline makes a hell of a difference. I am currently waiting to hear back about a government job. Passed all the lengthy application process but our government is undergoing a huge budget reform. So this agency can't hire until they hear back. Fingers crossed I'm one of the numbers but what they're doing on the software development side is trying to make processes more efficient and easier for the public. Something id really enjoy doing.

I probably wouldn't have a single problem coding for that based on the same feeling I'm getting about my own programs.

I honestly couldn't see myself doing this over a year ago. You think that could work for you?


P.S I can't bear university. Working on my own or clients projects I've got so much more learning out of than that place. How do you find it? Considering you're on your masters at the moment. Congratulations on that note, must be tricky at that level.

Edited by Orcseeker, 19 August 2014 - 03:59 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:18 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 19 August 2014 - 10:09 AM, said:

I am pretty aware of that, the point is every time I use a compiler I start to get angry about wasted space, inefficient recursions, slow execution that I go back to assembler (yes, you can even program Windows under assembler), most tools are free (hardly anybody would buy an assembler anyway nowadays). Only if I need a complicated GUI I use C or C++ because it is very painless to inline a large assembler program into the frame (of some compilers, I must add)

Other programming tools I use occasionally is LISP and PROLOG but generally end up getting very frustrated if the data amount starts to get large... it ends up being real Spaghetti that needs forever to execute.
I haven't been that close to the metal in years. Optimization is becoming a lost art.

Most of the time, companies are fine with just throwing processing power at it. Computers are cheaper than coders.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:24 PM

View PostTiggs, on 19 August 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

I haven't been that close to the metal in years. Optimization is becoming a lost art.

Most of the time, companies are fine with just throwing processing power at it. Computers are cheaper than coders.

The difference is: I don't live from coding, so I can afford making it an art.

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:56 PM

View PostOrcseeker, on 19 August 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

I understand what you mean completely. I was really leaning towards getting a job doing project management for software development. But then I tried out an iPhone course at my university. The assignments just needed to fit some constraints but otherwise you were left to your own creativity.

Ever since then if I've been making programs myself. I have started to really enjoy coding. A step out of the uninspired day to day course outline makes a hell of a difference. I am currently waiting to hear back about a government job. Passed all the lengthy application process but our government is undergoing a huge budget reform. So this agency can't hire until they hear back. Fingers crossed I'm one of the numbers but what they're doing on the software development side is trying to make processes more efficient and easier for the public. Something id really enjoy doing.

I probably wouldn't have a single problem coding for that based on the same feeling I'm getting about my own programs.

I honestly couldn't see myself doing this over a year ago. You think that could work for you?


P.S I can't bear university. Working on my own or clients projects I've got so much more learning out of than that place. How do you find it? Considering you're on your masters at the moment. Congratulations on that note, must be tricky at that level.

It's not really that hard, I just get by, somehow. In addition to programming languages, I also have DBMS subjects, I do feel like Database management would be the better choice for me, and not coding

When it comes to programming, it just seems like the sky is the limit, I don't really know what it takes to be considered 'good'.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:11 PM

View PostCrow T. Sharkbot, on 19 August 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

When it comes to programming, it just seems like the sky is the limit, I don't really know what it takes to be considered 'good'.

Releasing a program with very few bugs (i.e. the contrary of Microsoft) and fully functional (i.e. to the contrary of some game developers) makes you good.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 01:50 AM

View PostCrow T. Sharkbot, on 19 August 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:



It's not really that hard, I just get by, somehow. In addition to programming languages, I also have DBMS subjects, I do feel like Database management would be the better choice for me, and not coding

When it comes to programming, it just seems like the sky is the limit, I don't really know what it takes to be considered 'good'.

I thought there was a bit of coding for DBMS systems. Or are you talking from a accessibility standpoint with SQL or the like?







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