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UK could launch Syria strikes w/o Assad


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Posted 04 September 2014 - 09:13 AM

The Guardian said:


David Cameron has for the first time opened a legal path to strike Islamic State (Isis) inside Syria by saying Bashar al-Assad's government is illegitimate.

He suggested the west would not need an invitation from Assad under international law to strike at Isis within Syrian borders.

Speaking at the start of the Nato summit in Wales, Cameron ramped up the imminent case for UK involvement in air strikes in Iraq, saying that Isis represented a direct threat to the UK – and that decisions on strikes would be taken if they were in the national interest

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 09:23 AM

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Jeeeezus...it's like playground politics...

grow up Cameron...for all our sakes....

Trouble is UK, USA et al...don't want to admit the serious errors they made regarding Syria....

So they have to try to deny that Assad is the head of a legitimate government....to save face...

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:53 PM

Its alarming when Cameron is quoted in the piece - "He suggested the west would not need an invitation from Assad under international law to strike at Isis within Syrian borders" - surely Syria under international law is seen as a sovereign sate. or is the West allowed to just bomb anyone they like? when they like.

i know one thing the West are determined on bombing Syria. wanted to bomb Syria back in August 2013. a little over a year later they want to bomb Syria again. this time they've worked the PR machine. they've instilled a fear in the wider public with ISIS. So with all the media coverage and government telling us ISIS are a threat here at home. even though ISIS have continually stated in their beheading videos and on social media leave us alone and we'll leave you alone. with ISIS's goal of setting up a caliphate they are more of a threat to the countries in the middle east than us.

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:25 PM

Stevewin, I think both you and Bee are correct. Cameron is twisting himself into knots with this "illegitimate nation" nonsense. We shall have to re-name him "Mr Bendy".

At the same time, I'd have to question the utility of bombing attacks against an organisation like the Islamic State. What, who and where are they going to bomb ? This is something akin to a civil war; bombing without VERY good intelligence (and ideally ground spotters) is surely just going to cause huge civilian casualties ?

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 04:33 PM

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BBC NEWS reporting
So, the Conservative leadership has begun asking Tory MPs for their views about the possibility of military action against Islamic State.
One Conservative MP told me he had been asked two specific questions by his whip, an MP who enforces discipline in the House of Commons for the government.
The MP was asked: what did he think about military action in Iraq and what did he think about military action in Syria? http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-29062414

gauging to see if they can win a vote for military action. :no:

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