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North Sea 'Atlantis'


Kobalt

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Not the only one, even in historic times we have the city of Rungholt that was swallowed by the North Sea.

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There's a 58 page thread here about this that was started last January.

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There's a 58 page thread here about this that was started last January.

Harte

I think the point bought up with Atlantis in the title is different from that thread. :tu:

It came to mind after reading more of Tacitus, could the tradition have really meant the Doggerland area I wonder...

The country of Frisia is divided into two; called the greater and lesser, according to the measure of their strength. Both nations stretch along the Rhine, quite to the ocean; and surround vast lakes such as once have borne Roman fleets. We have moreover even ventured out from thence into the ocean, and upon its coasts common fame has reported the pillars of Hercules to be still standing: whether it be that Hercules ever visited these parts, or that to his renowned name we are wont to ascribe whatever is grand and glorious everywhere. Neither did Drusus who made the attempt, want boldness to pursue it: but the roughness of the ocean withstood him, nor would suffer discoveries to be made about itself, no more than about Hercules. Thenceforward the enterprise was dropped: nay, more pious and reverential it seemed, to believe the marvellous feats of the Gods than to know and to prove them

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They have a tradition that Hercules also had been in their country, and him above all other heroes they extol in their songs when they advance to battle. Amongst them too are found that kind of verses by the recital of which (by them called Barding) they inspire bravery; nay, by such chanting itself they divine the success of the approaching fight. For, according to the different din of the battle, they urge furiously, or shrink timorously. Nor does what they utter, so much seem to be singing as the voice and exertion of valour. They chiefly study a tone fierce and harsh, with a broken and unequal murmur, and therefore apply their shields to their mouths, whence the voice may by rebounding swell with greater fulness and force. Besides there are some of opinion, that Ulysses, whilst he wandered about in his long and fabulous voyages, was carried into this ocean and entered Germany, and that by him Asciburgium was founded and named, a city at this day standing and inhabited upon the bank of the Rhine: nay, that in the same place was formerly found an altar dedicated to Ulysses, with the name of his father Laertes added to his own, and that upon the confines of Germany and Rhoetia are still extant certain monuments and tombs inscribed with Greek characters. Traditions these which I mean not either to confirm with arguments of my own or to refute. Let every one believe or deny the same according to his own bent.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/tacitus-germanygord.asp

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Even though the Isles of Scilly may have been joined at some point with the area of southwest England, in and around Mount's Bay, that wouldn't make it part of Doggerland which was solely located in the central and southern part of the North Sea and connecting England with mainland Europe.

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To be honest, the Canary Islands (volcanic and unstable beyond the Pillars of Hercules) would be a better location. Off of the west coast of Africa, with a curious indigenous population of fair - skinned, blue - eyed folk known as Guanches. Certainly fits much more closely with Plato's scant descriptions.

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