LostSouls7 Posted October 25, 2014 #1 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I always thought the Satanic Bible was funny. It's basically the normal bible but backwards. Like for instance they say when someone hits your cheek, instead of turning the other cheek.. The Satanic bible commands to break the cheek of the one who hit you and if you do not destory him you are weak etc. The thing is why just take written stuff and make it backwards. I personally think the Satanic bible would have been more dark and evil and sinister if it had original writings all the way through and not just a rewrite of parts of the original bible. Just a thought I had, nothing serious. What do you think of this and the Satanic Bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 25, 2014 #2 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I think you need to have been a Christian, or influenced by Christians and have had some contact with the bible to understand it. otherwise it just sounds like Callicles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callicles " influential to modern political philosophy" - indeed ! Edited October 25, 2014 by back to earth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSouls7 Posted October 26, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Yes I think Lavey was just trying to p*** people off with this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted October 26, 2014 #4 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I don't pay no mind to that kind of stuff, waste of a good tree if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_of_Blades Posted October 26, 2014 #5 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Yes I think Lavey was just trying to p*** people off with this book. Well to be fair "Satanism" more-or less started as a way to take a p*** out of religion. I don't pay no mind to that kind of stuff, waste of a good tree if you ask me. Eh a lot of books are. Actually seems like it could be a fun read just comparing the two as you go. At least it isn't a "safety scissors" version of the bible/koran/torah for children. Edited October 26, 2014 by Jack_of_Blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libstaK Posted October 26, 2014 #6 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Seems pretty pointless to me, it would just make parts of the old testament read like they are the more compassionate version of the new testament and vice verca. Ergo, you would practically end up with the same mix of good and bad. Edited October 26, 2014 by libstaK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpee Posted October 26, 2014 #7 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I always thought the Satanic Bible was funny. It's basically the normal bible but backwards. Like for instance they say when someone hits your cheek, instead of turning the other cheek.. The Satanic bible commands to break the cheek of the one who hit you and if you do not destory him you are weak etc. The god Yahweh of the old testament of the bible said the same thing: "Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." - Deuteronomy 19:21 If you want to believe in satanism, follow the old testament of the bible. It goes against most of what Jesus Christ taught, like this for example: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." - Matthew 5:38-39 Edited October 26, 2014 by Arpee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimmOne Posted October 26, 2014 #8 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The god Yahweh of the old testament of the bible said the same thing: "Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." - Deuteronomy 19:21 If you want to believe in satanism, follow the old testament of the bible. It goes against most of what Jesus Christ taught, like this for example: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." - Matthew 5:38-39 Sounds like the father and the son disagreed on some points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted October 26, 2014 #9 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Please read this, and the link below it, as I can not paste the entire thing.....Dude was a fraud. "The bigger the lie, the more the people will believe it" - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf compiled by his daughter Zeena and Nikolas Schreck - February 2, 1998 Anton Szandor LaVey (1930-1997), along with Charles Manson, Timothy Leary, and other messianic pop gurus, was a notorious figure of the 1960s' subculture of social experiment. As the flamboyant High Priest of the Church of Satan and the author of the Satanic Bible, he served as an ideal bogeyman for the sensation-seeking American media of that tumultuous period. His curious celebrity was based largely on a self-created legend. This carefully-orchestrated legend may, in the final analysis, be LaVey's most enduring legacy. LaVey disseminated his legend through interviews with journalists, personal discussion with his disciples, and two LaVey-approved [auto]biographies (apparently ghostwritten by LaVey himself). The first of these, 1974's The Devil's Avenger (credited to LaVey associate Burton Wolfe), embellished on the fabrications Wolfe had already sketched in his introduction to the Satanic Bible. The second, 1990's Secret Life of a Satanist (credited to Blanche Barton, LaVey's live-in secretary and mother of his son), contradicted many of LaVey's own claims in the earlier volume, while putting forth new legends for public consumption. As social historians and scholars of occult movements begin to study LaVey's life and times in an objective historical context, a wealth of information concerning the man beneath the Devil horns has come to light. This brief checklist is a concise guide to separating the deliberate prevarications from the human, all-too-human facts. For brevity's sake, only the most well-known aspects of the legend will be clarified here. LEGEND: Claimed that "Anton Szandor LaVey" was his genuine birth name. REALITY: Born "Howard Stanton Levey". SOURCES: Birth certificate 4/11/1930, Cook County, Illinois. Confirmed by relatives. LEGEND: Claimed his parents were Joseph and Augusta LaVey. REALITY: Parents were Michael and Gertrude Levey. SOURCES: Birth certificate 4/11/1930, Cook County, Illinois. Confirmed by ASL's daughter Zeena and daughter Karla according to her entry on ASL's death certificate. LEGEND: Claimed he was introduced to the Dark Side by his Transylvanian Gypsy grandmother, who regaled him as a child with supernatural folklore and tales of vampires and werewolves. REALITY: ASL's grandmother was not Transylvanian nor of Gypsy stock. She was a Ukrainian named Cecile Luba Primokov-Coulton ("Coulton" was Anglicized from "Koltonoff"). Despite his frequent claims, ASL had no Gypsy ancestry. SOURCES: Relatives, including ASL's parents. LEGEND: In 1945 the 15-year-old ASL was brought to the ruins of postwar Germany by his uncle, a U.S. Coast Guard officer. There the teenaged ASL was shown top-secret films inspired by Satanic cult lodges and their rituals. ASL claimed that the "German" rituals in his 1972 book The Satanic Rituals were actual transcripts of the filmed rituals he saw as a youth. REALITY: Young Howard spent the entirety of 1945 in suburban northern California, and never visited Germany at any time in his life. The uncle who he claimed brought him to Germany was incarcerated at McNeill Island Penitentiary for involvement with Al Capone-related criminal activity during 1945, and was never in the armed forces. Allied martial law forbade U.S. citizens from visiting postwar Germany. The "German" rituals in the Satanic Rituals are written in extremely poor, Anglicized German. They are clearly uncredited adaptations of the short story The Hounds of Tindalos by Frank Belknap Long and H.G. Wells' famous novel The Island of Dr. Moreau. SOURCES: ASL relatives, former wife Diane LaVey, The Hounds of Tindalos, The Island of Dr. Moreau, The Satanic Rituals, Church of Satan member Rosalind Herkommer (who translated ASL's rituals into German). LEGEND: The 15-year-old ASL played second oboe with the San Francisco Ballet Orchestra, making him the youngest musician ever to play with that prestigious institution. REALITY: There was no "San Francisco Ballet Orchestra" in 1945. The San Francisco Ballet was accompanied by a local orchestra, whose records show that none of its three oboists was named "Levey" or "LaVey". SOURCES: San Francisco Performing Arts Library & Museum, San Francisco, California. LEGEND: In 1947 ASL ran away from home and joined the Clyde Beatty Circus. The Circus employed the 17-year-old as a lion tamer. He then replaced the Circus calliope player, accompanying such famous Beatty acts as the Concellos, Harold Alanza, and the Cristianis. REALITY: The voluminous Beatty archives show no record of a "Levey" or "LaVey" as lion tamer or musician. The Concellos, Alanza, and Cristianis were never Beatty performers; they worked exclusively for the Ringling Brothers Circus. SOURCES: Beatty 1947 Route Books, Circus World Museum, Baraboo, Wisconsin (Wright, "SD", page 67); ASL relatives. LEGEND: In 1948 the 18-year-old ASL was engaged to play organ at the Mayan burlesque theater in Los Angeles. There he met a young stripper named Marilyn Monroe, with whom he had a passionate love affair in the period before her rise to film stardom. According to ASL, Monroe had resorted to stripping to pay her rent. As proof of his relationship with Monroe, ASL later showed visitors a copy of Monroe's famous nude calendar inscribed "Dear Tony, How many times have you seen this! Love, Marilyn". REALITY: ASL never knew Monroe. Monroe intimate Robert Slatzer and Harry Lipton, Monroe's agent in 1948, have exposed and discredited this tale. Lipton paid Monroe's expenses, including her rent. Paul Valentine, director of the Mayan Theater, has stated that the Mayan was never a burlesque theater, and that neither Monroe nor ASL ever worked for the Mayan in any capacity. Diane LaVey, ASL's former wife, has admitted that she forged the "Monroe" inscription on the calendar. ASL's former publicist Edward Webber claims ASL admitted he never knew Monroe. SOURCES: Diane LaVey, Paul Valentine (Wright, "SD", page #68), Harry Lipton (Aquino-Lipton conversation 12/1/82), Robert Slatzer (letter to Aquino 11/27/82), Edward Webber (interview by Aquino 6/2/91). LEGEND: ASL was exposed to the savagery of human nature during his stint as a San Francisco Police photographer in the early 1950s. REALITY: San Francisco Police Department past employment records include no "Howard Levey" nor "Anton LaVey". Frank Moser, who was a SFPD photographer in the early 1950s, said that ASL never worked for the Department. SOURCES: SFPD records, Frank Moser (Wright, "SD", page 68). LEGEND: ASL studied criminology at San Francisco City College during the Korean War. REALITY: SFCC has no record of ASL's enrollment at any time. SOURCES: SFCC records (Wright, "SD", page 68). LEGEND: ASL purchased the house at 6114 California Street (which would later become the headquarters of the Church of Satan - the infamous "Black House") because he discovered on first inspection that it was the former brothel of Barbary Coast madam Mammy Pleasant. The house was honeycombed with trapdoors and secret passageways, built by Pleasant to elude police raids. REALITY: 6114 was ASL's parents' home. It was never a brothel, nor did Mammy Pleasant ever live or work there. ASL's parents first allowed ASL and his first wife Carole to live in the house, then transferred ownership of it to ASL and his second wife Diane in 1971. Such secret passages and hidden rooms that exist were constructed by ASL. SOURCES: Relatives, San Francisco property records (Michael & Gertrude Levey, Joint Tenancy Grant Deed, July 9, 1971). LEGEND: In the 1950s ASL traveled to Nice, France, where he recorded an album of organ music under the pseudonym of "Georges Montalba". REALITY: ASL's first and only trip to France was in the mid-1970s, when his Dutch disciple Maarten Lamers, Amsterdam sex club owner, financed his voyage. The "ASL=Montalba" story appeared in 1989, when a gullible Church of Satan member found a Montalba album and suggested that it was similar to ASL's own music. ASL, never pleased by competition, responded with the preposterous "pseudonym" claim - which is still ardently supported by his posthumous followers. SOURCES: Diane LaVey, Zeena LaVey. 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StarMountainKid Posted October 26, 2014 #10 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I read that book, or parts of it, years ago. At the time it seemed to me to describe how human beings actually behave in real life. We all have our systems of morality by which we should behave, but when the chips are down, or when circumstances arrange themselves in particular ways, I suspect our concepts of morality may be disregarded, and we revert to either our instincts for survival or to the expediency of the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted October 26, 2014 #11 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The Church of the Nonexistent Bogeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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