UM-Bot Posted November 16, 2014 #1 Share Posted November 16, 2014 A new study has revealed that household cats, unlike dogs, are likely to be only semi-domesticated. Despite sharing our homes for more than 9,000 years, cats have never reached the same level of domestication commonly seen in their canine counterparts. Read More: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/274838/will-cats-ever-be-as-domesticated-as-dogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted November 16, 2014 #2 Share Posted November 16, 2014 That is because to the contrary of dogs, cats use their brain a little. So as soon as they adapt to the average human's customs they will.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lilly Posted November 16, 2014 Popular Post #3 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Dogs seek to please their humans. Cats seek to have their humans please them. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikenator Posted November 16, 2014 #4 Share Posted November 16, 2014 this study is totally wrong I've had dogs my entire life I never wanted a cat 3 years ago someone gave me a cat and I ended up keeping it my cat follows me around everywhere I go if I move you she moves with me just like all my dogs have in the past she even sleeps on the floor next to my bed on a pillow just like all my dogs used to she even listens to me by pointing at something and making a noise with my mouth and she realizes I want her to go there or move there or do something I basically raised her like a dog because I've only ever had dogs my whole life in my honest opinion she's just as domesticated as a dog is I don't know where these scientists got their information but they're obviously wrong 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted November 16, 2014 #5 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Well my cat has domesticated me. So, that's something, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted November 16, 2014 #6 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Dog's ancestors were wolves, which are pack animals. There was already a strong social tendency to aid in the process of domestication. Domestic cats are descendants of largely solitary wildcats. Socialization has to work against an inborn asocial tendency, there. This can be overcome, as Mikenator observes. Cats raised among dogs and/ or interacted with, when young, as one does with dogs, will become socialized. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karasu Posted November 16, 2014 #7 Share Posted November 16, 2014 this study is totally wrong I've had dogs my entire life I never wanted a cat 3 years ago someone gave me a cat and I ended up keeping it my cat follows me around everywhere I go if I move you she moves with me just like all my dogs have in the past she even sleeps on the floor next to my bed on a pillow just like all my dogs used to she even listens to me by pointing at something and making a noise with my mouth and she realizes I want her to go there or move there or do something I basically raised her like a dog because I've only ever had dogs my whole life in my honest opinion she's just as domesticated as a dog is I don't know where these scientists got their information but they're obviously wrong Are you sure it's not studying your routines, before it eats you? J/K, that's a cute story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finder of Lost Things Posted November 16, 2014 #8 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I am totally sure that if she were a lot bigger or I were a lot smaller I would be on my sweet little kitty's menu. She's a killing machine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted November 16, 2014 #9 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Our cat is very protective. She growls like a dog at people she doesn't like. When I am sick she will sit by my head and cuddle me, liking me like a kitten. She is so loving, it is like having another kid. BUT, she is a Manx and I find Manx cats have different quirks. So, yeah, I don't totally agree with this study. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted November 16, 2014 #10 Share Posted November 16, 2014 My cat taught my dog to alert to one of my health issues. When my wife was dying she never left her side. After she died the cat spent a lot of time comforting us like she understood how devastated we were. Dogs great, they are servants, but cats are friends. I don't care if they aren't' domesticated, that is not the point of friendship. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted November 16, 2014 #11 Share Posted November 16, 2014 My cat taught my dog to alert to one of my health issues. When my wife was dying she never left her side. After she died the cat spent a lot of time comforting us like she understood how devastated we were. Dogs great, they are servants, but cats are friends. I don't care if they aren't' domesticated, that is not the point of friendship. I've never considered any dog that lived with me a servant. They do things for me, I do things for them...as any friend would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBelieveWhatIWant Posted November 16, 2014 #12 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Not sure if this is down to domestication or something but I had a cat (not sure what breed) Midnight. She was a pure hunter always outside looks at things to catch and bring in to us as "gifts". Her daughter "Patches" was what I'd like to refer to as a princess. She wouldn't hunt at all, she would just lay around the house all day around either myself, my mum or my brother. Midnight would even bring in (unbeknownst to any of us) live pigeons so Patches could "learn" to hunt, even with live prey right there she would just play with it (as we found out one day underneath one of our beds). When Midnight got hit by a car and died. Patches strangely started to show some of the traits her mother had. She started to hunt, go out at night and just in general act like Midnight, while keeping with her current traits of just hanging around us and stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted November 16, 2014 #13 Share Posted November 16, 2014 When Midnight got hit by a car and died. Patches strangely started to show some of the traits her mother had. She started to hunt, go out at night and just in general act like Midnight, while keeping with her current traits of just hanging around us and stuff. Like any other spoiled rotten kid...she realized she didn't have Mommy to fall back on and decided she'd better shape up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 17, 2014 #14 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Dogs are far more domesticated than cats. Dogs have been genetically manipulated over thousands of years and come in every shape and size. Domesticated cats show much less differentiation in basic morphology. An adult dog with the same body mass as an adult wolf has a brain only half it's size. Dogs are frozen in perpetual adolescence and interact with their human counterparts on a more intimate level of understanding. Cats show far less genetic modification and the brains of the wild and domesticated strains are virtually identical. The domesticated varieties tend to have shorter legs as an adaption to living and hunting in and among human structures. Wild cats are longer legged, resembling minature cougars or leopards in that regard. Domesticated cats revert to a feral state and are able to survive far easier than most dogs. Edited November 17, 2014 by Hammerclaw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapow53 Posted November 17, 2014 #15 Share Posted November 17, 2014 this study is totally wrong I've had dogs my entire life I never wanted a cat 3 years ago someone gave me a cat and I ended up keeping it my cat follows me around everywhere I go if I move you she moves with me just like all my dogs have in the past she even sleeps on the floor next to my bed on a pillow just like all my dogs used to she even listens to me by pointing at something and making a noise with my mouth and she realizes I want her to go there or move there or do something I basically raised her like a dog because I've only ever had dogs my whole life in my honest opinion she's just as domesticated as a dog is I don't know where these scientists got their information but they're obviously wrong They have different personalities and I've had a few like the one you describe. They make great friends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdesert50 Posted November 17, 2014 #16 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have become a cat person; I like their attitude of having the perspicacity to be a friend when the friendship is earned but still having the ability to do it alone in the wild. This is something we have lost as humans. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted November 17, 2014 #17 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Dog's ancestors were wolves, which are pack animals. There was already a strong social tendency to aid in the process of domestication. Domestic cats are descendants of largely solitary wildcats. Socialization has to work against an inborn asocial tendency, there. This can be overcome, as Mikenator observes. Cats raised among dogs and/ or interacted with, when young, as one does with dogs, will become socialized. It's true you have to work with what you are given and our domestic cats were/are loners by nature in comparison to a pack animal like a dog. Interesting I have known people that have kept parrots which tend to mate for life and at least some of them tend to fixate on one family member, ignoring or even attacking all others. So an animal's natural tendencies no doubt play a large part in how they relate to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted November 17, 2014 #18 Share Posted November 17, 2014 My cat follows me around and usually keeps close to me when I'm home, or keeps me in sight. When I come home from work he's usually at the door or in the hallway to meet me. By Thursday, he starts watching me leave. The fact that he's able to be left alone for a prolonged period of time, unlike a dog, makes him a perfect pet for me. He doesn't wreck the house and always uses the litterbox. Never tries to go out the door. I live in an apt. complex and he acts scared when I try to take him out of the apartment. He hides when other people come in. He comes when I call him. I would consider him domesticated. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted November 17, 2014 #19 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The only really negative thing I have to say about my cats is that they are blood thirsty vicious little things eager to tear to shreds anything smaller than they are. Otherwise they are charming and affectionate and clean. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokingjoker Posted November 17, 2014 #20 Share Posted November 17, 2014 My only issue with the article is the thought that cats were domesticated to kill, eat rodents, then rewarded with food, the cat just had its meal. Its my belief cats domesticated humans, they saw a benefit to living near us. Our rodent problem, they helped with it, and in return got a warm bed out of the elements, and a belly rub, but only two cause then they go for blood lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted November 17, 2014 #21 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Our cats are very domesticated. More so than most dogs I've met. That especially goes for our Maine Coon. Very smart cat. Smarter than some humans I've met. Oh, I love dogs too, I'm not bashing them. Not so much most human beings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrooma Posted November 17, 2014 #22 Share Posted November 17, 2014 i'm glad my cat isn't domesticated. she spends most of her time attacking me, from outta nowhere, like a cute, fur-covered, psychotic Kato. a lot of relationships fail because one partner is too 'clingy'- . not so the ones where 'clingy' equates to 'stuck to the side of your face with sharp little claws'..... . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 17, 2014 #23 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) The "cute factor" weighs heavily in favor of cats in their human association. It's hard to ignore the appeal of a litter of kittens. Then they grow up. *sigh* Cat's are solitary hunters but otherwise very social animals as any multiple cat owner can attest. Edited November 17, 2014 by Hammerclaw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted November 17, 2014 #24 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) I'm over 50 and got my first cat last February. It was -26c and he was yowling on my porch so I let him in. He looked like he was made of pipecleaners, so I called him 'Bones'. A few months later after he started gaining weight he awarded me a dead mouse. He left it for me in his food dish. Edited November 17, 2014 by Likely Guy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrooma Posted November 17, 2014 #25 Share Posted November 17, 2014 A few months later after he started gaining weight he awarded me a dead mouse. He left it for me in his food dish. . it's done outta love LG, but BIG kudos for taking in a rescue cat..... . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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