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#1    ChrisStrickler

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Posted 23 August 2001 - 12:56 PM

I have a question for the people who have been here longer than I have (seeing as how I just registered, that wouldnt take much).

I have a very close personal friend who has lived within a mile of an Navajo Indian Reservation in Utah, and has related the following story to me.

His family had been going to visit relatives in another city, and to get there, they drive through a stretch of Indian Reserve Territory. It was in the early evening, and his mom was riding in the passenger seat asleep, as were most of the rest of his family (he actually thought they all were asleep) while he drove. Out of the corner of his eye, he caught motion coming from the driver side shoulder of the road, and what he saw startled him to say the least. It was about 5'11 to 6'2, naked, and hairless. It was keeping pace with him, (approx. 45 miles per hour) and seemed to exude a sense of hatred towards them. He floored the van (97 Chevy Astro-van all-wheel drive extended) and quickly went to about a hundred miles an hour. The skinwalker kept up with him until about 60, and then simply stopped running.

He didnt mention this to his family seeing as how they might think he was crazy, until his younger sister (7-ish) mentioned the same thing to him and his mom. She described it accurate to his memory, and even described how he (her brother) had sped up to get away from it. Their mother told her it was just a dream, and not to worry. My friend knows it wasnt a dream, and knows he isnt crazy.

According to what I can find, a skin-walker is essentially nothing more than a "witch doctor/medicine man" gone evil, and as such are attributed all sorts of mystical powers and abilities. However, they need the skin of an animal to get their abilities. He heard stories from some of the Navajo's at high school of "skinwalkers" that were smooth skinned, hairless and exist simply to cause pain. I was wondering if anyone has anymore stories (doesnt matter how far removed from the source they are) about these "smooth" skin-walkers.

thanks from a "newbie"
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#2    Mystify

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Posted 23 August 2001 - 07:05 PM

Welcome to the forum Chris!
I found a site with some info on your skin walkers.
Very intresting stuff.
http://www.dangermed...skinwalker.html

I'm here today because of the past, i respect my self and all i have become and there for i do not regret the road i've walked.

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Posted 23 August 2001 - 08:46 PM

It's actually a story...but still intrestin.:)
I'll try to find factful stuff if I can.

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Posted 23 August 2001 - 09:20 PM

In all actuality, I am interested in as many stories as exist (doesnt matter what the relation, or how far from the source it is).

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Posted 24 August 2001 - 07:31 PM

Nothing like responding to your own thread eh?

More information on the "smooth" skin-walkers.

Description (as far as I have collected)

They are usually between 5'5 and 6'5 from all the varied accounts, and stories I have read. They are all "male" in appearance, even though they have no visible genitilia. They are resilient (to the point of being hit by cars, and being seen getting up and running). Very human appearance, and some stories report them to be a form of magical eunech created by the real skin-walker to be a protector. They are sometimes seen along with a "familiar" style animal. And, are rarely seen in daylight. Every sighting of them has the people in it fleeing for their lives from these, and some have the smooth skin walker following them throughout the tribe.

Anymore information, or sightings, or even fiction written about them would be appreciated.

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Posted 27 August 2001 - 06:32 PM

Here is a couple more sites I found: http://www.unsolvedm.../usm148890.html   and    http://web.nmsu.edu/~tomlynch/swlit.skinwalkers.html

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Posted 27 August 2001 - 10:53 PM

Homer,

Are you a member at unsolvedmysteries.com????  If you are what is your author id #???  I love that site.;)

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Posted 28 August 2001 - 06:25 AM

Jamie,

I'm not a member there, although I do frequent there quite often. I agree with you, it's a great site.

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Posted 28 August 2001 - 12:46 PM

I was sitting here at work, and realized that the skinwalkers have a very similar resemblance to the movies/series of "The Crow", although in the case of the skinwalker, they aren't out to right some wrong, they are just evil. Anyways.

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Posted 01 April 2005 - 01:32 PM

Has anyone see more skinwalkers???


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Posted 02 April 2005 - 02:40 AM

Who or what from "The Crow" does the skinwalker look like?  I was just wondering because there wasn't much detail as to which character looked like it.  Also, I've only seen the first movie (starring Brandon Lee, may he rest in peace), but the only one I can think of that you could be talking about is his character when he's wearing that skin-tight suit.  Let me know if you're talking about a different character or movie altogether.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 06:49 AM


my names Ryan and im a Full Blooded Utah Navajo
i know exactly what your talking about......the same thig happened to my mother when she was driving back to utah late one night from a Educational Conference in window rock, arizona. execpt with her it was an actually coyote.....running besides her car at about 70 miles per hour give or take. she was alone and so she couldnt exactly panic rather then just speed up an continue driving.

IN ANY CASE  a skin was is ..yes... a Witch...well a person whos very very educated in "the evil way". there are many ceremonies that are involved in a person who turns into a Skinwalker. the ones everyone heard about are usually when a WITCH jumps over a fire and when he/she lands on the other side....he'she is a skinwalker. however in his or her time as being a skinwalk, she cannot die from any type of gun shots....or injuries UNITL they transform back into their human form.

there are many types of skinwalkers ranging from your Basic "werewolf" type creature to just a Man-Form having the same "supernatural" abilities. these types are usually just men painted completely WHITE from head to toe with black spots around their bodies. I've heard stories of them being in HORSE form, DOG form, some stories i heard from my own family member is that htie can actually be in a black "FOG" like form with only RED EYES. now i know your thinking...their just seeing ghosts....NO, thats an entirely different thing.

there are many things about Our  culture in which a truely Traditional Navajo like myself knows. however i am your "liberal" type navajo in which i am NOT christian, i do unmderstand whats right and wrong. im actually majoring in political science and im currently servicing my term in the US Marine Corps at the moment. if that tells u what kind of common sense i have about these stories, then i IMPLORE YOU TO QUESTION ME[attachmentid=20589]

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 10:45 AM

I read a book a while ago, that described skin walkers as native shamans.

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Skin-walker is a witch or someone who practices a certain type of witch craft, that turn them into a certain creture (mainly a canine of some type).

Such witchcraft can be found in numerous cultures all over the world, closely related to beliefs in witchcraft, werewolves and other "were" creatures.  The Mohawk Indian word "limikkin" is sometimes used to desribe all skin-walkers.

Possibly the best documented skin-walker beliefs are those of the Navajo yenaldooshi, also sometimes referred to as a Navajo witch by outsiders. The yenaldooshi are evil human beings who have gained supernatural power by breaking a cultural taboo. Specifically, a person is said to gain the power of a yenaldooshi by murdering a close relative. The skin-walker will travel through the community by night, spreading misery and desecrating holy things. He or she is usually described as naked, except for a coyote skin. The yenaldooshi is also said to have the power to assume the form of a coyote or other animal.

The main power of the yenaldooshi comes from its use of corpse powder which is made from human cadavers. Touching the powder will curse a person with sickness or death. This is an inversion of the use of pollen among the Navajos, which is sprinkled to produce blessings. Another form of this is a bone pellet which the yenaldooshi will shoot into a victim's body.

In ancient Hopi culture ther was a ritual ceremony once performed called the Ya Ya Ceremony. In this ceremony members would change themselves into various animals using hide from the chosen animal, and the members use certain animal attributes like sight, strength,etc. The ceremony was banned after members developed a disease of the eyes.

In Norse folklore, a skin-walker is a person who can travel in the shape of an animal and learn secrets, or take on certain characteristics of an animal. The person is then said to be wearing that animal's hide. The most well-known example of the latter is the warrior who takes on the strength and stamina of a bear, called "bear shirt" or berserker. The use of an animal shape for other purposes was considered unholy, and people accused of having such abilities were frequently cast out or summarily executed. Females so charged got off more lightly, until the witch trials began in the Middle Ages and Renaissance.
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Posted 15 November 2005 - 01:01 PM


I have heard of them being rabbit form, coyote form, wolf, dog, and owl. I think the Na Dine' ( Navajo) word for them is "Chindi". They are all evil.


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Posted 15 November 2005 - 07:29 PM

Hi all, I'm new in this site, but i find it very very interesting! yes.gif

I just wanted to say that I read something similar at paranormal.about.com...check it out...

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