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#76    Justin Mosley

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 07:19 PM

MORE AWESOME NEWS!! Sub_American Productions has been asked to discuss part of our Documentary on the "Dan and Tasos Show" on Live 105.3 FM out of Dallas! We'll be on around 9:45PM Saturday Jan. 13th.  Allen Reed will be handling PR for Sub_American Productions.


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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:15 PM

No one seems to have added to this forum in a long time, so interest may have died.

But to me, it's interesting. I lived in Athens a little over 20 years ago, and I was interested in the stories that the locals told us college students. 'even spent a few nights driving around and trespassing to see what I could see. I'll tell you what I saw personally and then what I was told.

I visited Fuller Park and saw the graves inside and the monkey cages that someone else photographed. I don't remember any graffitti, but there might have been some. I remember that Fuller Park gave me the creeps, but I can't prove that they were caused by anything but normal emotions.
          I also visited the country club and saw the round concrete disk with a roof over it, next to the swimming pool. (Someone else has taken a photo which you can see at http://i38.photobuck....ctures013.jpg.) And one night friends of mine and I snuck into the lawn of a large house on Hwy 19 (east of the highway, heading south toward Palestine) and saw a large circle with a five-pointed star in it, constructed with what builders there call "natural rock." The thing had flowers planted among the lines of rock, but it was definitely a pentacle in shape.I r

Now, here's what I was told: early in the 20th century a very rich man moved to Athens from Dallas. He'd always wanted a castle on a hill overlooking a lake, so he bought some land and built both castle and lake. The castle later burned, but the cellars remained and the Athens Country Club is built over them. The "lake" (pond actually) and the land around it are part of the golf course.
          This guy was supposedly an enthusiastic occultist (whether Satanic or pagan I don't know, but I do appreciate the difference), and he and some of the other local bigwigs formed a secret society which met in the basement of this "castle." The room also contained a sort of torture chamber, and a woman (the country club secretary) who worked then in those rooms claimed there were still bolts on the walls to which people would have been chained. The story goes on that the wife of this transplanted Dallas man disappeared, and that he bragged about killing her, knowing that he'd get away with it because no body would ever be found. The townspeople felt robbed of a trial and just lynched him.
          I mentioned the circular patio and the pentacle in the yard above because they were details in the story. Supposedly, five of the prominent members of this society -- the man with the castle included -- had constructed at their homes a pentacle of stone, and if these five pentacles were plotted on a map of Athens and connected, they formed a large pentacle over the entire town. I remember we spent some time studying a map where we'd marked the two we knew of and trying to determine where to find the other three, but we never found any of them.

If anyone is still interested in this subject and lives in Athens, you might want to look up the secretary from the country club whom I mentioned. Her name was McIntyre, and in 1984 she lived on Colonial Drive. I'd heard she was collecting these stories and was planning on writing a book about the "secret society" in Athens, Texas.

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 05:46 PM

Todd Tolbert FACTS. I grew up in Athens, went to High School in the early 80's. First I want to tell you about Todd Tolbert. Todd was my husband's best friend and he was the best man at my wedding. He was also my best friend's casual boyfriend. He was a wonderful guy that loved fast cars, just a little too much.  He and my husband at the time were always tinkering with cars and were painting our old Firebird around the time he died.  He was a short stocky guy with a rough look.  He had pretty wavy blonde hair.  The main thing is he was a sweet heart and I actually had two friends that were fighting over his attentions.  Todd DID NOT DIE ON HALLOWEEN, THAT IS FALSE.  The night Todd died was January 1 just after midnight. We had all been together at a little pool hall bringing in the New Year. We needed more beer and Todd and Will (I have seen posted that Mark was with him but that is false) took the job of going to Caney City to get the beer. He first took my best friend home who had been with him all that night because her mom wanted her home just after midnight, and that probably saved her life. As I said Todd was into fast cars (he did not have a mustang, it was a blue car that was really jacked up high in the back and I believe it was a Vega) and Todd was coming back into Athens on highway 31 when his tie rod broke which caused him to loose control of his car. He was going fast and flew high enough to shear a telephone or electric pole midway. Will was thrown clear and survived but he was really messed up pretty badly. Todd died at the scene. He DID NOT HIT A TREE.  His car was resting right at a building on Hwy 31.  We heard of the crash immediately and went to the scene which was directly across from what use to be the old Trail Drive In. They had a white sheet over him and he was still in the driver's seat. I kept screaming that the white sheet was a paramedic leaning in to help him.  It was an awful night.  We were devastated as you can imagine. It fell on my ex husband and I to tell Todd's other best friend Rocky and to tell my best friend that he had just dropped off at home about an hour earlier, that Todd was dead.  I remember Rocky just screaming. I admit that after Todd's death we did start hearing a lot of rumors about satanic rituals, but we never heard that Todd was an active part of this and I don't believe for one second that he was.  We were too close to him and we would have known. We visited two sites in Athens that have or had very large stone pentagrams. One was at the Country Club and we were told that a few days before Todd's death, that Todd and some of his friends were standing on each point of the pentagram, all except Todd because there was not another point, the points were all taken. And the assumption was that this was going to be bad for Todd in some way. The other stone pentagram was in the front yard of a house but I don't remember where it was now.  I remember looking through thick bushes and seeing the exact pentagram that I had seen at the Country Club.  There were a lot of rumors going on at that time. I was only 17 and it was in 1982 so I really don't remember all the rumors and really I just dismissed them.  The only thing I really heard about rituals was that they were held somewhere out toward Shady Oaks which is just a little housing development going towards Cross Roads. As for Fuller's Park, I have been there on many occasions at night. Teenagers in the area do know of the urban legend and like to go out there at night after drinking to get their nerve up. I never had a supernatural type experience there, but I do remember that it was eerie. The tombstones were turned over and the huge chain was still there. I saw the picture posted at the link and it pretty much looks the same as it did in the early 80's. I left Athens in 1984 and have never lived there again although I do go back to Malakoff because I have family and friends there, but I usually take the loop around Athens. In the early 80's and in just a few years I lost 26 friends from Athens to various accidents and have lost many more in the years after that. Honestly, all of the deaths are the reason I do not want to live in Athens ever again, I felt like, well this may be silly but I felt like Athens was cursed or that we as a group were cursed and that if I didn't leave I might be next. Although, the dead are 99% male and I am female, which probably means nothing except that the males took more risks with drinking and fast cars. I still have good friends that are males that live there and it surprises me even now that they remain alive, I am so glad they are alive. I never could put my finger on the unease Athens held for me or if my friends deaths were just accidents or something darker. I like to think it was all just really bad luck. I can add one thing about the police around there. This is also rumor and has never been proven, but I have had a few friends end up dead after a run in with police in Athens. Probably a coincidence.  There is a tragic cold case murder that happened on Monkey Road and the guy was tossed off of Thunder Bridge.  He was one of my best friend's (who I also dated for awhile) brother. He was shot and thrown off the bridge 20 years ago.  I saw that his sister had the case in the newspaper recently.  Just go look it up at the Athens Review online.  I have never. never heard that this murder had anything to do with supernatural events.  I have also walked the entire length of Monkey Road at midnight and have never seen or heard anything unusual, you know like Monkeys.  LOL


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Posted 06 June 2007 - 06:49 AM

I apologize I was wrong about the fact that Will was in the car with Todd when Todd was killed, it was indeed Mark Shaffer. The car was a red Ford Comet that Todd had built in his HS shop class. I am hearing that he never worked at the Country Club, but this is not proven yet.

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Todd Tolbert FACTS. I grew up in Athens, went to High School in the early 80's. First I want to tell you about Todd Tolbert. Todd was my husband's best friend and he was the best man at my wedding. He was also my best friend's casual boyfriend. He was a wonderful guy that loved fast cars, just a little too much.  He and my husband at the time were always tinkering with cars and were painting our old Firebird around the time he died.  He was a short stocky guy with a rough look.  He had pretty wavy blonde hair.  The main thing is he was a sweet heart and I actually had two friends that were fighting over his attentions.  Todd DID NOT DIE ON HALLOWEEN, THAT IS FALSE.  The night Todd died was January 1 just after midnight. We had all been together at a little pool hall bringing in the New Year. We needed more beer and Todd and Will (I have seen posted that Mark was with him but that is false) took the job of going to Caney City to get the beer. He first took my best friend home who had been with him all that night because her mom wanted her home just after midnight, and that probably saved her life. As I said Todd was into fast cars (he did not have a mustang, it was a blue car that was really jacked up high in the back and I believe it was a Vega) and Todd was coming back into Athens on highway 31 when his tie rod broke which caused him to loose control of his car. He was going fast and flew high enough to shear a telephone or electric pole midway. Will was thrown clear and survived but he was really messed up pretty badly. Todd died at the scene. He DID NOT HIT A TREE.  His car was resting right at a building on Hwy 31.  We heard of the crash immediately and went to the scene which was directly across from what use to be the old Trail Drive In. They had a white sheet over him and he was still in the driver's seat. I kept screaming that the white sheet was a paramedic leaning in to help him.  It was an awful night.  We were devastated as you can imagine. It fell on my ex husband and I to tell Todd's other best friend Rocky and to tell my best friend that he had just dropped off at home about an hour earlier, that Todd was dead.  I remember Rocky just screaming. I admit that after Todd's death we did start hearing a lot of rumors about satanic rituals, but we never heard that Todd was an active part of this and I don't believe for one second that he was.  We were too close to him and we would have known. We visited two sites in Athens that have or had very large stone pentagrams. One was at the Country Club and we were told that a few days before Todd's death, that Todd and some of his friends were standing on each point of the pentagram, all except Todd because there was not another point, the points were all taken. And the assumption was that this was going to be bad for Todd in some way. The other stone pentagram was in the front yard of a house but I don't remember where it was now.  I remember looking through thick bushes and seeing the exact pentagram that I had seen at the Country Club.  There were a lot of rumors going on at that time. I was only 17 and it was in 1982 so I really don't remember all the rumors and really I just dismissed them.  The only thing I really heard about rituals was that they were held somewhere out toward Shady Oaks which is just a little housing development going towards Cross Roads. As for Fuller's Park, I have been there on many occasions at night. Teenagers in the area do know of the urban legend and like to go out there at night after drinking to get their nerve up. I never had a supernatural type experience there, but I do remember that it was eerie. The tombstones were turned over and the huge chain was still there. I saw the picture posted at the link and it pretty much looks the same as it did in the early 80's. I left Athens in 1984 and have never lived there again although I do go back to Malakoff because I have family and friends there, but I usually take the loop around Athens. In the early 80's and in just a few years I lost 26 friends from Athens to various accidents and have lost many more in the years after that. Honestly, all of the deaths are the reason I do not want to live in Athens ever again, I felt like, well this may be silly but I felt like Athens was cursed or that we as a group were cursed and that if I didn't leave I might be next. Although, the dead are 99% male and I am female, which probably means nothing except that the males took more risks with drinking and fast cars. I still have good friends that are males that live there and it surprises me even now that they remain alive, I am so glad they are alive. I never could put my finger on the unease Athens held for me or if my friends deaths were just accidents or something darker. I like to think it was all just really bad luck. I can add one thing about the police around there. This is also rumor and has never been proven, but I have had a few friends end up dead after a run in with police in Athens. Probably a coincidence.  There is a tragic cold case murder that happened on Monkey Road and the guy was tossed off of Thunder Bridge.  He was one of my best friend's (who I also dated for awhile) brother. He was shot and thrown off the bridge 20 years ago.  I saw that his sister had the case in the newspaper recently.  Just go look it up at the Athens Review online.  I have never. never heard that this murder had anything to do with supernatural events.  I have also walked the entire length of Monkey Road at midnight and have never seen or heard anything unusual, you know like Monkeys.  LOL




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Posted 06 June 2007 - 05:35 PM

Before my fiance was deployed, we went to Fuller Park. We didn't have any flashlights and no one else was with us. We saw the graves and walked straight back to where it's cleared out. There was nothing strange about it. Just like walking in the woods across from my house. sleepy.gif



Mmkay, I do believe in curses, but I don't know that you can attribute deaths to a curse when it involved teenage boys drinking and driving too fast. As I've said before, I went to Cross Roads and we had several kids die while I was in school. Most were to auto accidents, but one hung herself and another died of cancer. Athens isn't cursed, but I don't think that it's silly to have those beliefs.  original.gif You really should come back for a visit. We have a Wal-Mart Supercenter now! Hehe.


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Posted 18 June 2007 - 10:14 PM

I have NOT seen ANYTHING about Athens Texas in the shape of a pentagram. I WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF IT! Where is the proof?

Edited by atx75751, 20 June 2007 - 02:12 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2007 - 05:15 PM

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I have NOT seen ANYTHING about Athens Texas in the shape of a pentagram. I WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF IT! Where is the proof?



They are talking about tunnels, I believe. It's obviously not the actual roads in that shape; anyone can look at a map and see that for themselves. This thread is in the Conspiracies & Secret Societies part of the forum. Conspiracy theories aren't always true. That's why it's just a theory.


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Posted 20 June 2007 - 05:43 PM

It's been a while since my last post. Here's an update on the documentary that we're filming over the dark history of Athens, TX original.gif I've posted two production video logs on youtube.com here's the URL if your interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSdwK3L9V28

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 09:21 PM

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I live near athens... I've never heard of anything that you just said. In regards to the preachers wife... take it with a grain of salt... we are in the Bible Belt remember lol. I think I would have heard something.

I was born in Athens, texas grew up there, and let me say, any and all stories you hear about fullers park, are probably true, ive been there, seen things that i wish i hadnt, Theres a disc golf tournament that happens right down the road from there (cain center) Paul Giles memorial. Let that be the one time a year you go to fullers park. (trust me)


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Posted 15 October 2007 - 09:39 PM

Where are these pictures taken in Fuller Park?  I want to see the mean looking orbs in the monkey cages!

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 12:42 AM

There are still witch scares in the 21rst Century?!
Wow.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 12:55 AM

There's another thread about this in urban legends

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:50 PM

I have this thread all the way from the beggining and wanted to say it is very interesting. If anyone out there has anymore info please post it. Also some of you promised pictures !!! Where are they?



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Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:11 PM

Labelsr4jars on Oct 29 2007, 05:50 PM, said:

I have this thread all the way from the beggining and wanted to say it is very interesting. If anyone out there has anymore info please post it. Also some of you promised pictures !!! Where are they?



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  good luck most of these posts are pretty old


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Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:21 PM

Labelsr4jars on Oct 29 2007, 06:50 PM, said:

I have this thread all the way from the beggining and wanted to say it is very interesting. If anyone out there has anymore info please post it. Also some of you promised pictures !!! Where are they?



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