some new guy Posted March 16, 2015 #1 Share Posted March 16, 2015 A group of Russian and South Korean researchers has begun their attempt to clone a woolly mammoth, starting by extracting DNA from a spectacularly well-preserved specimen discovered in the Siberian permafrost in 2013. The project is led by Hwang Woo-Suk, a Korean cloning scientist who was the focus of a scandal in 2006 involving fraudulent research on human stem cells. Hwang has had success with animals, however, reportedly creating the world's first cloned dog and several cloned coyotes. The research team, from the Sooam Biotech Research Foundation and Russia's North-Eastern Federal University, began this week to extract DNA from the leg of the long-frozen animal. The news was reported by the university and the Siberian Times. http://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/scientists-take-dna-sample-mammoth-leg-cloning-project-n324561 BEST - Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Ford Posted March 17, 2015 #2 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Well I hope they do.. But it seems every 3 years or so there is a press item talking about this exact same thing yet nothing ever happens. I remember the 'making a mammoth using DNA with elephants story' for around 20 years now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenceMinisterMishkin Posted March 17, 2015 #3 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A mammoth? Let's just skip straight to the good stuff! T-Rex FTW! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cooper Merrin Posted March 17, 2015 #4 Share Posted March 17, 2015 i find this prospect intriguing and exciting, if successful it could open huge possibility for many extinct fauna There will always be morality issues but i do believe that we need to push boundaries to proceed and advance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cooper Merrin Posted March 17, 2015 #5 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A mammoth? Let's just skip straight to the good stuff! T-Rex FTW! or a hybrid predatory dinosaur! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted March 17, 2015 #6 Share Posted March 17, 2015 i find this prospect intriguing and exciting, if successful it could open huge possibility for many extinct fauna There will always be morality issues but i do believe that we need to push boundaries to proceed and advance A mammoth is pretty cool but how about a Smilodon fatalis! Nice kitty! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SameerPrehistorica Posted March 17, 2015 #7 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A mammoth? Let's just skip straight to the good stuff! T-Rex FTW! I guess it's because starting from a vegetarian might have seemed fine for them and also the Woolly Mammoth is the famous of all Mammals.It's popularity is just behind T.Rex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cooper Merrin Posted March 17, 2015 #8 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I think i would have started on something that we caused to dissappear! Like the passenger pigeon or the Thylacine! I think that would generate more public support and less moral controversy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark-DK Posted March 17, 2015 #9 Share Posted March 17, 2015 And it has fur, guess it will roam the plains of Northern Europe...wait...not many plains left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenceMinisterMishkin Posted March 17, 2015 #10 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It's just a fluffy elephant! I want T-Rex dammit! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxDeMynx Posted March 17, 2015 #11 Share Posted March 17, 2015 EVERYBODY RUN!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atuke Posted March 17, 2015 #12 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I think i would have started on something that we caused to dissappear! Like the passenger pigeon or the Thylacine! I think that would generate more public support and less moral controversy, I'm with you on the thylacine, although I believe they are still with us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atuke Posted March 17, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I feel it's modern man's responsibility to bring the creatures back from the dead that we decimated. All of them. Including Neanderthals. Time to right our wrongs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trancelikestate Posted March 17, 2015 #14 Share Posted March 17, 2015 If they add mammoth DNA to an elephant embryo would the result be a creature with mixed DNA or actually 100 percent mammoth like they used to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperdyer Posted March 17, 2015 #15 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I think i would have started on something that we caused to dissappear! Like the passenger pigeon or the Thylacine! I think that would generate more public support and less moral controversy, Nah - Who'd go to a zoo to see a carrier pigeon. A Woolly Mammoth on the other hand....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted March 17, 2015 #16 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A group of Russian and South Korean researchers has begun their attempt to clone a woolly mammoth, starting by extracting DNA from a spectacularly well-preserved specimen discovered in the Siberian permafrost in 2013. The project is led by Hwang Woo-Suk, a Korean cloning scientist who was the focus of a scandal in 2006 involving fraudulent research on human stem cells. Hwang has had success with animals, however, reportedly creating the world's first cloned dog and several cloned coyotes. The research team, from the Sooam Biotech Research Foundation and Russia's North-Eastern Federal University, began this week to extract DNA from the leg of the long-frozen animal. The news was reported by the university and the Siberian Times. http://www.nbcnews.c...project-n324561 BEST - Ron I will put my name down on the list for one of the first to try a mammoth burger! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cooper Merrin Posted March 17, 2015 #17 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I will put my name down on the list for one of the first to try a mammoth burger! McMammoth with cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximusnow Posted March 17, 2015 #18 Share Posted March 17, 2015 T-REX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted March 17, 2015 #19 Share Posted March 17, 2015 T-REX! Please can I have a Tyrannosaurus burger with large fries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark-DK Posted March 17, 2015 #20 Share Posted March 17, 2015 We only bring the cute ones back, not the ugly ones ! Just like society in general... On subject of T-Rex...ppl have a hard enough time to cope with the fact that the wolf is back in the nature in many places, so T-Rex ? Ruuuuuuun....and don't hide in the loo.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Kitten Posted March 17, 2015 #21 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A mammoth? Let's just skip straight to the good stuff! T-Rex FTW! What's up with mammoths? I like the dinosaurs too but don't want to be forced underground with those everywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted March 17, 2015 #22 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I think i would have started on something that we caused to dissappear! Like the passenger pigeon or the Thylacine! I think that would generate more public support and less moral controversy, I think there are problems with both, even if good DNA was available. I don't believe there is an animal closely related enough to the Thylacine to act as a surrogate womb, although the Tasmanian Devil is often cited, so that might be a possibility. As for cloning birds, I don't believe we have an artificial egg yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted March 17, 2015 #23 Share Posted March 17, 2015 If they add mammoth DNA to an elephant embryo would the result be a creature with mixed DNA or actually 100 percent mammoth like they used to be? If they did it in the usual way of cloning, assuming its possible with such an old specimen, the Mammoth DNA would be inserted into an Elephant ovum, which has had its nucleus removed. The new Mammoth would be genetically identical to the donor Mammoth.I vote for the Carolina Parakeet to be brought back by this method. We are responsible for its extinction. A very beautiful bird. I don't believe an 'artificial egg' would be needed. Just use the egg of a similarly sized bird, remove the nucleus, and replace it with the DNA of the Carolina Parakeet. This might be easier with a bird than with a mammal. The eggs are so much larger, and so, presumably easier to work with. The problem would be finding well-preserved Carolina Parakeet DNA, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted March 17, 2015 #24 Share Posted March 17, 2015 If they did it in the usual way of cloning, assuming its possible with such an old specimen, the Mammoth DNA would be inserted into an Elephant ovum, which has had its nucleus removed. The new Mammoth would be genetically identical to the donor Mammoth. I vote for the Carolina Parakeet to be brought back by this method. We are responsible for its extinction. A very beautiful bird. I don't believe an 'artificial egg' would be needed. Just use the egg of a similarly sized bird, remove the nucleus, and replace it with the DNA of the Carolina Parakeet. This might be easier with a bird than with a mammal. The eggs are so much larger, and so, presumably easier to work with. The problem would be finding well-preserved Carolina Parakeet DNA, it seems. The Carolina Parakeet and the Passenger Pigeon probably have little viable DNA in preserved specimens. There is another problem with these species from what I understand; they were communal nesters, when the population got below a certain level they failed to reproduce. So unless you could clone rather large numbers of both males and females, it's probably not likely. I do find it sad that we killed off our only truly native parrot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted March 17, 2015 #25 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Its probably true of any species, that if we want to establish a naturally breeding, viable population, a substantial number of individuals would have to be cloned. There needs to be a certain amount of genetic diversity for the long-term success of a species. The Mammoth cloners may be thinking in terms of only of one or a few individuals, for display and study. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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