poppet Posted April 12, 2015 #1 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [media] [/media]In 2007 Jean-Pierre Houdin, a French architect, revealed his revolutionary new theory as to how the Great Pyramid in Egypt was built. Dassault Systemes, a team of computer engineers, spent 2 years testing his 'internal ramp' theory with scientific 3D simulations. Their website allows you to fly around the pyramid as it would have looked 4,500 years ago and explains in outline Jean-Pierre's theory.Chapters are:The two enigmas of the Great Pyramidhttp://youtu.be/ysuAXrh2OTY#t=53The genius of the builders (5th year)http://youtu.be/ysuAXrh2OTY#t=305The genius of the builders (14th year)http://youtu.be/ysuAXrh2OTY#t=778The genius of the builders (15th year)http://youtu.be/ysuAXrh2OTY#t=1052Seventy days to be rebornhttp://youtu.be/ysuAXrh2OTY#t=1778The paths to eternityhttp://youtu.be/ysuAXrh2OTY#t=2320The Great Pyramid seen from the skyhttp://youtu.be/ysuAXrh2OTY#t=3042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted April 12, 2015 #2 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Haven't we had this conversation before? Who in their right mind would 1 want to stand in the Nile all day and B survive standing in the Nile all day? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet Posted April 12, 2015 Author #3 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [media] [/media]I had heard of his internal ramp theroy but i was unaware that he also has speculated on the 2 antechambers still hidden.here is the latest interview with Jean-Pierre Houdin.http://emhotep.net/2...in-part-1-of-3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted April 12, 2015 #4 Share Posted April 12, 2015 What about the Aztec/Mayan pyramids? or the others around the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted April 12, 2015 #5 Share Posted April 12, 2015 That's a pretty interesting theory. I'd heard of it before, but not of the antechambers. As for South American pyramids, I don't believe they share any characteristics, asides from the basic geometric shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted April 12, 2015 #6 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Haven't we had this conversation before? Who in their right mind would 1 want to stand in the Nile all day and B survive standing in the Nile all day? No cats, that's for sure. http://www.examiner.com/article/5-foot-cat-eating-lizards-florida-lizards-devouring-cats-and-puppies-now-hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet Posted April 13, 2015 Author #7 Share Posted April 13, 2015 That's a pretty interesting theory. I'd heard of it before, but not of the antechambers. here's more https://www.academia...T_OF_THE_THEORY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted April 14, 2015 #8 Share Posted April 14, 2015 As you said, the article is from 2007 and surely must have been discussed here. The idea hasn't exactly caught fire with any Egyptologists, though. Every once in awhile, I see him pushing his theory again, generally just as he comes out with a new book that rehashes most of his old stuff. I was reading Mark Lehner's Complete Pyramids book (he's the guy who has the license to dig around most of Giza), and he mentions that Egyptologists are constantly hammered by people who have never studied the culture but have a "rock-solid explanation of how the Great Pyramid was built." Every time Houdin runs another promotion or someone comes up with an "amazing new idea", it gets trotted out to the media. Sorry if I sound jaded. Houdin's idea made the rounds for quite awhile and never lived up to its promise. The "solution" should explain not only G1, but G2, G3, and all the rest of the pyramids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 14, 2015 #9 Share Posted April 14, 2015 As you said, the article is from 2007 and surely must have been discussed here. The idea hasn't exactly caught fire with any Egyptologists, though. Every once in awhile, I see him pushing his theory again, generally just as he comes out with a new book that rehashes most of his old stuff. I was reading Mark Lehner's Complete Pyramids book (he's the guy who has the license to dig around most of Giza), and he mentions that Egyptologists are constantly hammered by people who have never studied the culture but have a "rock-solid explanation of how the Great Pyramid was built." Every time Houdin runs another promotion or someone comes up with an "amazing new idea", it gets trotted out to the media. Sorry if I sound jaded. Houdin's idea made the rounds for quite awhile and never lived up to its promise. The "solution" should explain not only G1, but G2, G3, and all the rest of the pyramids. Yes Pyramid ideas are rather common, good ones very rare. However, what if they had a cold water CO2 geyser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atalante Posted April 14, 2015 #10 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) The Smithsonian Channel is showing a new documentary about building Khufu's great pyramid. A structural engineer named Peter James, and Egyptologist Mark Lehner are in the new documentary. The documentary also covers a diary that was found in 2013, written by one of the ancient Egyptians who worked on Khufu's pyramid. The new documentary explains that Giza quarries would have produced huge amounts of rubble, while also producing rectangular blocks of stone. The only practical place to put the rubble is "inside" the pyramid. http://www.smithsoni...1003102/3412162 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/new-theory-how-egypts-pyramids-were-built-will-cause-war-archaeologists-video-1431910 Edited April 14, 2015 by atalante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skithia Posted April 14, 2015 #11 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yes Pyramid ideas are rather common, good ones very rare. However, what if they had a cold water CO2 geyser? you said the 'g' word I thought that was to be avoided lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted April 14, 2015 #12 Share Posted April 14, 2015 As you said, the article is from 2007 and surely must have been discussed here. The idea hasn't exactly caught fire with any Egyptologists, though. Every once in awhile, I see him pushing his theory again, generally just as he comes out with a new book that rehashes most of his old stuff. I was reading Mark Lehner's Complete Pyramids book (he's the guy who has the license to dig around most of Giza), and he mentions that Egyptologists are constantly hammered by people who have never studied the culture but have a "rock-solid explanation of how the Great Pyramid was built." Every time Houdin runs another promotion or someone comes up with an "amazing new idea", it gets trotted out to the media. Sorry if I sound jaded. Houdin's idea made the rounds for quite awhile and never lived up to its promise. The "solution" should explain not only G1, but G2, G3, and all the rest of the pyramids. I disagree the method for G1 should be directly applicable to G2 and G3. Perhaps they tried an innovative technique on G1 that did not prove effective enough to continue doing. Maybe G1 is the only one to contain a cold water co2 geyser and the others had to utilize a water based funicular system. Or it was aliens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 14, 2015 #13 Share Posted April 14, 2015 you said the 'g' word I thought that was to be avoided lol By Bylaw 42-1 I and I alone am allowed to mention the word as long as I'm seated on three cans containing a whole chicken. Thusly: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 14, 2015 #14 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I disagree the method for G1 should be directly applicable to G2 and G3. Perhaps they tried an innovative technique on G1 that did not prove effective enough to continue doing. Maybe G1 is the only one to contain a cold water co2 geyser and the others had to utilize a water based funicular system. Or it was aliens... I think it was Mayans but then I think Denmark started WWII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted April 15, 2015 #15 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) As you said, the article is from 2007 and surely must have been discussed here. The idea hasn't exactly caught fire with any Egyptologists, though. Every once in awhile, I see him pushing his theory again, generally just as he comes out with a new book that rehashes most of his old stuff. I was reading Mark Lehner's Complete Pyramids book (he's the guy who has the license to dig around most of Giza), and he mentions that Egyptologists are constantly hammered by people who have never studied the culture but have a "rock-solid explanation of how the Great Pyramid was built." Every time Houdin runs another promotion or someone comes up with an "amazing new idea", it gets trotted out to the media. Sorry if I sound jaded. Houdin's idea made the rounds for quite awhile and never lived up to its promise. The "solution" should explain not only G1, but G2, G3, and all the rest of the pyramids. ? Geyser 1 , Geyser 2 and Geyser 3. Surely, from now on ( and seeing as if I write ***** cat it comes out like this ... but if I write pussycat, it's okay ) we should now have an auto G**** function ? Edited April 15, 2015 by back to earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted April 15, 2015 #16 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) As you said, the article is from 2007 and surely must have been discussed here. The idea hasn't exactly caught fire with any Egyptologists, though. Every once in awhile, I see him pushing his theory again, generally just as he comes out with a new book that rehashes most of his old stuff. I was reading Mark Lehner's Complete Pyramids book (he's the guy who has the license to dig around most of Giza), and he mentions that Egyptologists are constantly hammered by people who have never studied the culture but have a "rock-solid explanation of how the Great Pyramid was built." Every time Houdin runs another promotion or someone comes up with an "amazing new idea", it gets trotted out to the media. Sorry if I sound jaded. Houdin's idea made the rounds for quite awhile and never lived up to its promise. The "solution" should explain not only G1, but G2, G3, and all the rest of the pyramids. I am in agreement. Houdin's theory has some merit but it seems mainly popular among lay people and, to a degree, proponents of alternative history. Aside from Bob Brier, I am not aware of any academically respected scholar or historian who finds Houdin's theory plausible (and Brier himself isn't actually an Egyptologist, despite how he's often billed/bills himself, but I do like his work on paleopathology). Houdin is merely trying to stay relevant. He had his fifteen minutes but keeps pumping out the same baseline. I'm not aware of any further supportive evidence he can offer. Nevertheless, even the most conservative of us must admit that his theory is a hell of a lot more credible than so much of the half-baked twaddle one sees on the internet. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What's all this mention of the G-word, people? Don't poke the bear! Edited April 15, 2015 by kmt_sesh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 15, 2015 #17 Share Posted April 15, 2015 half-baked twaddle Half baked? No my moldy friend they are raw, raw and still steaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet Posted April 15, 2015 Author #18 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The University of Laval (Quebec) are about to commence Infrared thermography to determine different temperatures on the face of Khufu’s pyramid and the University of Tokyo are using Muons radiography to detect voids and this is being overseen by Faculty of Engineers of Cairo who will be working towards their PhD’s and all are working towards validating the internal ramp and the two hidden antechambers theory proposed by Jean-Pierre Houdin. http://emhotep.net/2014/04/19/structures/pyramids-structures/sarah-korcz-a-new-interview-with-jean-pierre-houdin/#more-8904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted April 15, 2015 #19 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Half baked? No my moldy friend they are raw, raw and still steaming. cold water co2 geysers don't steam, they mist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 15, 2015 #20 Share Posted April 15, 2015 cold water co2 geysers don't steam, they mist... You speak truth - I stand corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 15, 2015 #21 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) The University of Laval (Quebec) are about to commence Infrared thermography to determine different temperatures on the face of Khufu’s pyramid and the University of Tokyo are using Muons radiography to detect voids and this is being overseen by Faculty of Engineers of Cairo who will be working towards their PhD’s and all are working towards validating the internal ramp and the two hidden antechambers theory proposed by Jean-Pierre Houdin. http://emhotep.net/2...udin/#more-8904 Interesting but a search of the University of Tokyo's pending research database shows no such research being planned - at least where I can find it. http://proposal.ducr.../textsearch.cgi This is the closest thing I could find in regards to what was said in the article http://proposal.ducr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/ccr_usr/EN/detail.cgi?num=6253&query=hiroyuki%20tanaka&sub_query=&max=20 Edited April 15, 2015 by Hanslune 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted April 15, 2015 #22 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The University of Laval (Quebec) are about to commence Infrared thermography to determine different temperatures on the face of Khufu’s pyramid and the University of Tokyo are using Muons radiography to detect voids and this is being overseen by Faculty of Engineers of Cairo who will be working towards their PhD’s and all are working towards validating the internal ramp and the two hidden antechambers theory proposed by Jean-Pierre Houdin. http://emhotep.net/2...udin/#more-8904 Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I believe this is an old interview and permissionfor him to do the non-destructive and determinative testing has been rescinded. I believe they just don't want to know the results because it would probably show how it was built no matter what method was used. From the article; "With Dassault Systèmes, we have already done many simulations regarding the reactivity of the pyramid to this technique, and we know it is very well suited for our survey." There was so much mist from the geysers you could even see a rainbow lit by the fire-pan at night. I got another line from the PT last night. It refers to the sand thrown up, some of which now resides in the walls of the horizontal passage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted April 15, 2015 #23 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Yes Pyramid ideas are rather common, good ones very rare. However, what if they had a cold water CO2 geyser? Now look what you did. I think it was Mayans but then I think Denmark started WWII Who told you that ? It's supposed to be a secret ! Edited April 15, 2015 by Noteverythingisaconspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted April 15, 2015 #24 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I am trying to find an older article about a researcher that had detectors and tried to image the GP using the Sun as a source of particles. Can't seem to get past sites claiming that the GP was used as a plutonium factory, orgone generator, model of the universe, or a whatever. Did find this http://www.academia.edu/1805485/Muon_detector_Pyramid_of_the_Sun_Teotihuacan Looks like Luis Alvarez did this kind of work decades back. The articles says they are going to do something similar at Teotihuacan in 2003. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/boalva.html In 1965 Alvarez took his physics expertise on an archeological expedition. A U.S.-Egyptian team was trying to find hidden chambers in the Giza pyramid in Egypt by using subatomic particles to calculate the pyramid's density. They didn't find any chambers, ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 15, 2015 #25 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Unfortunately I believe this is an old interview and permission for him to do the non-destructive and determinative testing has been rescinded.. I can find no evidence that any attempt nor a formal request was made to be gain such permission. Perhaps you can point to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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