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Genital Mutilation ‘On the Increase in Europe’


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#1    DC09

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Posted 26 November 2004 - 10:35 PM

Young girls born in Europe to immigrant families from Africa are being subjected to ritual genital mutilation, and authorities are doing little to discourage it, a leading women’s rights activist warned.


Somalia-born supermodel and best-selling author Waris Dirie, who has campaigned to end the disfiguring practice she suffered at age five in her homeland, said yesterday that she estimates one in every three African families living in Europe is secretly carrying out the ritual on their daughters. No official figures exist.

The procedure – illegal in most European countries – is especially prevalent in Germany and the Netherlands, as well as in Austria, where an estimated 8,000 girls born into immigrant families have been affected, Dirie said.

“We don’t know who’s doing it and where,” because there are few initiatives to prevent it or to encourage doctors, nurses, social workers, teachers and others to report suspected cases, Dirie said. An exception is France, where there is strong awareness and education, she said.

“What good is a law if no one is paying attention?” Dirie told reporters in Austria, where she was being honoured yesterday by a Roman Catholic men’s movement for her efforts to stop the practice.

Islamic religious leaders are telling Europe’s Muslim Africans that the prophets recommend the ancient ritual, which involves the removal of the clitoris, often with a dull blade and no anaesthesia, Dirie said.

“That is a catastrophe,” she said. “Every imam who is not actively against genital mutilation is guilty. Mutilation is not a tradition – it’s a crime that must be abolished.”

Although women generally perform the procedure, sometimes called female circumcision, men are ultimately responsible because “untrimmed” young women “face great difficulties in African societies in finding a husband,” Dirie said.

Between 100 million and 140 million women have undergone genital mutilation worldwide, and two million girls are at risk each year, according to the World Health Organisation, which says the practice can lead to infection, the spread of Aids and crippling physical, psychological and sexual problems.

The practice has been on the rise not only among immigrants in Europe but also in Australia, Canada and the US, Who says.

Petra Bayr, an official with Austria’s Socialist Party, said the bloc’s women would press the government to consider genital mutilation an “act of violence” and legitimate grounds for women fleeing it to be granted asylum in Austria.

“Women who are threatened with genital mutilation or have already suffered it should not have to wait for months for an open door,” added Raimund Loeffelmann, a spokesman for the Catholic men’s organisation honouring Dirie yesterday.  

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Posted 26 November 2004 - 10:39 PM

That is disturbing, it's also performed in the middle-eastern countries as well.  I never knew this type of thing was going on until I lived in Saudi back in '93 and was shocked to find it out......... sad.gif

[edit]I even tried to tell people about this and they didn't believe me cause it sounds so bizarre........

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 05:53 AM

Its trully disgusting and sickening and although its another peoples readition or custom, it still shouldn`t be allowed at all. We should do everything we can to stop this horrific act from being performed!


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Posted 27 November 2004 - 06:54 AM

bleh yet male circumcision is quite a common and accepted practice:)




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Posted 27 November 2004 - 07:00 AM

The male circumcision does not keep the patient from enjoying sex or having a sexual climax. The female procedure is  not intended to promote cleanliness and health but instead a mutilation of the clitoris.

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 08:15 AM

hmmm, it does severly deaden the nerves in the penis, but i'm not going to pretend i know the female anatomy well, especially vs a female haha
i think they are both retarded practices:)


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Posted 27 November 2004 - 10:06 AM

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hmmm, it does severly deaden the nerves in the penis, but i'm not going to pretend i know the female anatomy well, especially vs a female haha
i think they are both retarded practices:)


you actually dont know much about male circumsicion either.

If you did you would know that it doesnt affect sexual perofrmance and is actually the far more cleanlier option.

PS im not circumsized lol.

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 10:30 AM

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hmmm, it does severly deaden the nerves in the penis, but i'm not going to pretend i know the female anatomy well, especially vs a female haha
i think they are both retarded practices:)


Male circumsicion doesn't deaden any nerves and it is not a mutilation of the penis. Its something that is done all the time and it is about  getting rid of the skin around the top of the penis. As wurn said it does not affect sexual performance and some believe it to be far more clean and healthy.
Mutilation of the clitoris is something entirely different and is not at all normal or common practice and is sick and a dispicable act. The clitoris is a very sensitive part of the female anatomy and this would effect sexual activities and cause many psychol.ogical and emotional and physical problems. Female genital mutilation is about stopping women from being women. Sick! disgust.gif

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 11:18 AM

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The male circumcision does not keep the patient from enjoying sex or having a sexual climax.

Isn't that's what it's for? Apparently if they don't have their sexual pleasure surgically removed from then they could turn into sluts overnight. Obviously that doesn't say much for the parent if that happens.
What's ironic about it is that they claim how much cleaner it is when it can cause psychological damage, infections and even STDs.

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 11:26 AM

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If you did you would know that it doesnt affect sexual perofrmance and is actually the far more cleanlier option.


uhh yes it does
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it desensitizes the penis, as for being the cleanlier option, maybe if you are too retarded to wash yourself:)

i mean really, the foreskin is there to serve a purpose, yes a circumcised man can still do all the usual, it just isn't as good:)




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Posted 27 November 2004 - 11:54 AM

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i mean really, the foreskin is there to serve a purpose, yes a circumcised man can still do all the usual, it just isn't as good:)


Circumsized or not its all the same.



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Posted 27 November 2004 - 12:06 PM

Female Circumsicion is totally different from Male,no questions asked.
To compare it is stupid and ill informed.
At least men are able to have sex after being circumcised,in alot of cases the woman physically cant.


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Posted 27 November 2004 - 12:16 PM

I WASN'T COMPARING THEM BLAH
I think both practices are stupid:)


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Posted 27 November 2004 - 12:25 PM

calm down there bath, i thought u were about to have an aneurism for a moment.

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 12:39 PM

haha my bad:P





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