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[snuffypuffer]

I'm about to get my ass chewed, I know, but here goes.  I never really supported the war, as I felt the reasons we were going were not the reasons we gave.  I do, however, hope Saddam, Uday, and Qusay have a nice trip to hell, and enjoy the weather.  these were very, very bad people.  The President did, ah, lie, about Iraq attempting to obtain uranium from Africa, I think he knowingly used bad information, and I can't say I'm happy about that.  But, I am proud to live in a country where I can do a jig in the street and yell "@$#! Bush" as loud as I want and no one will kill my family.  I also use the word we, because whether I agree with our policy or not, I'm still an American and if things go bad I'm probably gonna be over there defending my right to hate the president.

[Homer]

[Nancy]

Ok, here goes.  So far, I don't see any comments on this thread that
refer to terrorism. Yes, that WORD that is now part of our everyday lives.

WMD... Insane Dictator and his two Insane sons... Lies, lies, lies from Iraq for how many years?

Syria, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanastan, Saudia Arabia... just to name a few, are interconnected with borders unprotected, agendas that are not "Ozzie and Harriet"...  all contribute to the desire to eliminate Western cultures, in one form or the other.

The money flows, the 'bad guys' plot and decent men and women are being ambushed.

How many years has Saddam had to hide, cheat and wiggle his way out of his responsibilities to comply with UN Resolutions? How many months have the various Military Forces "occupied" Iraq?

The difference in Cultures will never, EVER mix. Understanding each other, is impossible!

Remember that several floors of both WTC buildings were reduced to INCHES in height. Remember what happened..........

snuffypuffer? I'm probably right behind you in having my butt chewed as well.

However, someone has to have THE GUTS to confront this "heck" that has landed in the USA lap. I just hope other countries open their eyes and begin to assist the USA in eliminating the enemy. It will not happen in my lifetime, that's for dang certain.    

[odinsupreme]

nancy,

So you would like the western countries to kill all arab's as soon as possible? Good luck...

Whatever everyone is saying now, the reason Bush gave for a war was bullshit! They NEVER found weaopons that would jusitfy the actions they have taken. The whole country is a mes and probably, after a year or so the western forces are gon and an even more unstable en extreem government will rise to power in Iraq.

And for Europe supporting them.. well, a lot of countries didn't have a choice, did they? If they weren't helping the big almighty "God is with us and only us" USA, they wouldn't get any help in the future, no funds, nothing. Good politics USA.. It's normal to discuss things and find a good way out of it, at least with your friends you do, but when threat with such things, you are weak.

The war had it's reasons, and it wasn't only oil. Terrorists were a big point, but why not be honest? Just say why you are going into war, not make a nice story up around it..

Odin

[Sageghost]

[Bizarro]

WHOA.  stop right there, Sageghost.  Michael Moore is not even close to a fair and balanced point of view.  he is a total extremist.  in fact, i know he staged several incidents in that documentary.  its widely reported that the whole getting the gun from the bank thing was staged:

[Sukato-San]

Moore is a zealot, pure and simple.

[Sageghost]

[snuffypuffer]

Okay, Homer, I'll give you that one.  But in a speech when one is attempting to justify a war, you'd think they'd want to check their information a little better.  At the least it's a very sloppy job.  And I'm still waiting for these weapons of mass destruction.  Some residue in a rusty barrel doesn't count.  And Michael Moore, I saw his Oscar speech, he struck me as a self righteous asshole.  Not following his drummer.

[Nancy]

[odinsupreme]

Nancy,

It's wasn't meant as an insult..  

Odin

[Bizarro]

Sageghost, while i understand your perspective completely, you would have to live in the US to understand this issue.  gun control is a noble thing, but if the government came driving through Alabama collecting guns you would see a civil war the likes never seen on this Earth.  people here would never give up their weapons because they believe the government is more of a threat to them than their weapons are.  most people would rather die than give up their gun.  its that simple.

now, maybe there will come a day when automatic (most already banned) or semi automatic guns are outlawed but i doubt that too.  people worry too much about the government and they want these high powered weapons to ensure the government doesn't try anything funny.  

i don't agree with these philosophies, im just letting you know they exist.  i don't own a gun of any kind.  

oh and about the bank giving away a rifle...  lots of people collect guns and trade them where i live.  if a bank offered a rifle they would get a lot more customers than if they offered a piggy bank.  its just the culture.

[Nancy]

[odinsupreme]

Well, you don't need to avoid any threads I write in. I will probably won't be writing anything here when a forum member acts that stupid when someone gives his/her opinion and you start to complain about it. Really very, VERY pathetic..

And above all, when the other members (as you say) support her in her action of "woooooh, me is mad, me is leaving, but not for real".

Odin

[Saru]

Odin, let's not draw this out any further.

I realise you did not intend to offend anyone with what you said, but nevertheless someone did take offense, and it would be best to drop the subject before this gets any more out of hand.