Realm of Unknown Posted April 28, 2016 #1 Share Posted April 28, 2016 So, a friend of mine is a pscionic.. Who had an experience when she was younger with an entity that she still does not fully know what it is. Her description of it involves these key points 1) dog/dog-like 2) red eyes 3) unnatural growling 4) was sound in a graveyard 5) was keeping spirits trapped within the graveyard in order to feed off them 6) Was capable of attaching itself to her and followed her for many years 7) Was of Sumerian descent I have been unable to find anything that really matches this, closest thing I could think of was HellHound or Black Dog, but neither fit some of the important traits.. Was wondering if you guys knew anything I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbco196 Posted April 28, 2016 #2 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Feed off of spirits? Poor puppy must have been starving. Serious note: just an overactive imagination. No such creature exists. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted April 28, 2016 #3 Share Posted April 28, 2016 So, a friend of mine is a pscionic.. Who had an experience when she was younger with an entity that she still does not fully know what it is. Her description of it involves these key points 1) dog/dog-like 2) red eyes 3) unnatural growling 4) was sound in a graveyard 5) was keeping spirits trapped within the graveyard in order to feed off them 6) Was capable of attaching itself to her and followed her for many years 7) Was of Sumerian descent I have been unable to find anything that really matches this, closest thing I could think of was HellHound or Black Dog, but neither fit some of the important traits.. Was wondering if you guys knew anything I don't. Wow. Really? Is she amenable to answering questions, coz that raises a multitude.... eg here's just a few of the obvious ones.. She never took any photos? How young was she and why hanging around graveyards? How could she know it was keeping spirits - did it talk to her? How could it keep anything trapped if it attached itself to her? How did she know it was Sumerian? Me.. I'm with Barb and I think the best match is Scooby Doo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realm of Unknown Posted April 28, 2016 Author #4 Share Posted April 28, 2016 No such creature exists. I'm not saying it is a creature, hence why this is not under the Cryptid forum. This wasn't materialistic, it was spiritual based, which broadens the spectrum significantly. There were also two other witnesses to this, one being my friend's sister. These two then seeing/feeling this thing constantly over many years... So it is either a real bad dream during the daytime, a weird dog following them around, something unknown or all three of them suffer from the exact same mental illness and just happen to all be in the same area to see this... A single conclusion can not just be met that quickly...no investigation or research has ever been done that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realm of Unknown Posted April 28, 2016 Author #5 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Wow. Really? Is she amenable to answering questions, coz that raises a multitude.... eg here's just a few of the obvious ones.. She never took any photos? How young was she and why hanging around graveyards? How could she know it was keeping spirits - did it talk to her? How could it keep anything trapped if it attached itself to her? How did she know it was Sumerian? Me.. I'm with Barb and I think the best match is Scooby Doo. I stated in the beginning that she claims to be psionic, which would clear up most of those questions. I believe she was in her early teens, her now being in college. The story has not changed. Though she hasn't exactly explained all the details throughout the many years she had experienced this thing. It is also not my story, so there is never going to be a point in which i know all those details.. Most people also do not think to take photos first, especially if an event is sudden and or terrifying for those involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted April 28, 2016 #6 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Two other people who knew her backed it up? - that's called empathy, and the psionic thing (note spelling..) doesn't help - you can't meaningfully investigate beliefs... And as for the 'sudden events' excuse for no photos, you said this covered many years! You'll be pleased to know that I'm out, other than to say she needs professional assistance, not replies on a forum. Good luck with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted April 28, 2016 #7 Share Posted April 28, 2016 How did she know it was Sumerian? The very obvious question to ask, I think ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realm of Unknown Posted April 28, 2016 Author #8 Share Posted April 28, 2016 And nothing here has been any assistance what so ever, not sure what I was expecting really... Purely skeptical thinking with a one track mindset that excludes any and all other possibilities. If we truly believe there are things out there that we do not know of yet...how are we expected to learn anything about them when we only utilize the more comfortable and already known solutions to questions and problems? The only reason I came here was d to me being /out/ of probable solutions to this answer. I've looked into the mental health card, whether or not there were any strange sightings of animals in the area or any species of wild dogs that may fit the size and description. I've asked and talked to several people in this person's family to see if there were any signs of depression at the time, or if there were previous experienced that may lead to a desire for attention. I've covered what I can on my own, I'm not asking a community of people within a paranormal and supernatural forum sight /if/ there is any possibility that this could be something not found in mainstream science. I'm not given any of this, how is it that no one here is able to even consider other possibilities? Maybe I'm just too optimistic, maybe a bit too open-minded to really know a limit, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted April 28, 2016 #9 Share Posted April 28, 2016 How did she work out "it" was "of Sumerian descent" ? Sounds pretty wacky, does it not ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 28, 2016 #10 Share Posted April 28, 2016 And nothing here has been any assistance what so ever, not sure what I was expecting really... Purely skeptical thinking with a one track mindset that excludes any and all other possibilities. If we truly believe there are things out there that we do not know of yet...how are we expected to learn anything about them when we only utilize the more comfortable and already known solutions to questions and problems? The only reason I came here was d to me being /out/ of probable solutions to this answer. I've looked into the mental health card, whether or not there were any strange sightings of animals in the area or any species of wild dogs that may fit the size and description. I've asked and talked to several people in this person's family to see if there were any signs of depression at the time, or if there were previous experienced that may lead to a desire for attention. I've covered what I can on my own, I'm not asking a community of people within a paranormal and supernatural forum sight /if/ there is any possibility that this could be something not found in mainstream science. I'm not given any of this, how is it that no one here is able to even consider other possibilities? Maybe I'm just too optimistic, maybe a bit too open-minded to really know a limit, but still... If she actually has had such experiences - sorry but it really sounds too bizarre - then she might want to consult a Christian counselor. Such things could easily be demonic. If she has invited such an entity into her life then her problems are bound to become far worse in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted April 28, 2016 #11 Share Posted April 28, 2016 She must've been on some strong spirits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted April 28, 2016 #12 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Nothing has frightened me so much, since the Hound of the Baskervilles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted April 28, 2016 #13 Share Posted April 28, 2016 So, a friend of mine is a pscionic.. Who had an experience when she was younger with an entity that she still does not fully know what it is. Her description of it involves these key points 1) dog/dog-like 2) red eyes 3) unnatural growling 4) was sound in a graveyard 5) was keeping spirits trapped within the graveyard in order to feed off them 6) Was capable of attaching itself to her and followed her for many years 7) Was of Sumerian descent I have been unable to find anything that really matches this, closest thing I could think of was HellHound or Black Dog, but neither fit some of the important traits.. Was wondering if you guys knew anything I don't. Hi, you say its not a creature, but dog/dog like, growling - natural or un, black dog, all sounds like she came across a wolf or a wild dog and ..yep...she did not know what it was. So like many others who believe in entities, she attributed it to that. When you are told a story like this by someone, it is second hand, you must take into account you were not there and since then she has very likely added a bit of fantasy to it over the years. Anyway, apart from the questions you will be asked on here, what questions did you ask her ... eg: similar to what ChrLzs is asking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeSember Posted April 28, 2016 #14 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I read all the time, about everything. The description reminds me of the Black Dog or Hell Hounds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_dog_%28ghost%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJatti Posted April 28, 2016 #15 Share Posted April 28, 2016 This entity is an evil entity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Topp Posted April 28, 2016 #16 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) As posted by other members here, stating some one is pscionic does not really help us but and only brings more questions since people tend to claim to be many things these days and expect people to blindly accept it. Can you please give us better information, your post is very vague and a lot of things don't add up and be easily dismissed. Imagine you are in court and you have to give a word for word recount of what she had told you. Like a story writer you should say Where it happened, when did it happen (and if it happened multiple times), why it happened (like why is she hanging around a grave yard), What has happen each time she "met" this being that attached to her? How does she know that the dog is collecting souls? I am not trying to come off harsh but lets look at your post. By going from your post it can be just a dog that she saw that had pink eyes or light reflecting off it. The rest sounds like she made up or from a D&D game. So a sound from a grave yard, what type of sound? a bird sound? a truck? some one playing ACDC? The dog makes unusual noises? I owned dogs all my life and they do have a vocal range that goes above woof woof and I have heard weird sounds that they have produced (check youtube) and is not paranormal. I don't understand by you stating it follows and attaches to her, isn't that one the same? how far it followed her? The dog is able to attach to her and yet kept souls in the graveyard? Also i am curious on how she knows it was Sumerian descent? did it just popped into her head or did it talk? it is weird she tells these stories and only have that bit of information about it and nothing else. It sounds like your friend is pulling one over you or it is a false memory from a dream. So, a friend of mine is a pscionic.. Who had an experience when she was younger with an entity that she still does not fully know what it is. Her description of it involves these key points 1) dog/dog-like 2) red eyes 3) unnatural growling 4) was sound in a graveyard 5) was keeping spirits trapped within the graveyard in order to feed off them 6) Was capable of attaching itself to her and followed her for many years 7) Was of Sumerian descent I have been unable to find anything that really matches this, closest thing I could think of was HellHound or Black Dog, but neither fit some of the important traits.. Was wondering if you guys knew anything I don't. Edited April 28, 2016 by Brian Topp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbco196 Posted April 28, 2016 #17 Share Posted April 28, 2016 And nothing here has been any assistance what so ever, not sure what I was expecting really... Purely skeptical thinking with a one track mindset that excludes any and all other possibilities. If we truly believe there are things out there that we do not know of yet...how are we expected to learn anything about them when we only utilize the more comfortable and already known solutions to questions and problems? The only reason I came here was d to me being /out/ of probable solutions to this answer. I've looked into the mental health card, whether or not there were any strange sightings of animals in the area or any species of wild dogs that may fit the size and description. I've asked and talked to several people in this person's family to see if there were any signs of depression at the time, or if there were previous experienced that may lead to a desire for attention. I've covered what I can on my own, I'm not asking a community of people within a paranormal and supernatural forum sight /if/ there is any possibility that this could be something not found in mainstream science. I'm not given any of this, how is it that no one here is able to even consider other possibilities? Maybe I'm just too optimistic, maybe a bit too open-minded to really know a limit, but still... You're right. There are things out there we know nothing about. So let's go with the things we DO know. We know the mind is capable of creating. We know there are mass hallucinations, where by more than one person is able to witness an event that has no basis in reality. Power of suggestion? Who knows. My best advice is to tell your friend to pay this thing no mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Topp Posted April 28, 2016 #18 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) You're right. There are things out there we know nothing about. So let's go with the things we DO know. We know the mind is capable of creating. We know there are mass hallucinations, where by more than one person is able to witness an event that has no basis in reality. Power of suggestion? Who knows. My best advice is to tell your friend to pay this thing no mind. That is true on the power of suggestion. For example there is the ghost called green eyes that lurks in the forest near by. The story is vague but it meant to chase out or capture people who trespass at night. The story is as scary as a turnip but now when i drive by i always catch myself looking for it even though i am a skeptic. Best power of suggestion is talking about head lice. You get paranoid subconsciously and scratch your head with out realizing it. Edited April 28, 2016 by Brian Topp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Topp Posted April 28, 2016 #19 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) And nothing here has been any assistance what so ever, not sure what I was expecting really... Purely skeptical thinking with a one track mindset that excludes any and all other possibilities. You must rule out the possible before jumping towards the impossible. If we truly believe there are things out there that we do not know of yet...how are we expected to learn anything about them when we only utilize the more comfortable and already known solutions to questions and problems? As i stated earlier, your first post here is very vague and jumps around. The only reason I came here was d to me being /out/ of probable solutions to this answer And yet you get defensive to people for being closed minded when they suggest reasonable explanations that you claim have thought of? . I've looked into the mental health card, I am sorry but no one is qualified to state if one is sane except by personal opinion unless they spent their life getting a degree. A person call lie, especially if some one is acceptable to the lie. whether or not there were any strange sightings of animals in the area or any species of wild dogs that may fit the size and description. We got dog/dog creature. No size or weight. I've asked and talked to several people in this person's family to see if there were any signs of depression at the time, or if there were previous experienced that may lead to a desire for attention. Asking some one doesn't really help because people can gloss over patterns or not aware of patterns of depression. I had suffered from depression and my mother would of said i wasn't depressed just quiet and a bit of a loner in my day. I've covered what I can on my own, I'm not asking a community of people within a paranormal and supernatural forum sight /if/ there is any possibility that this could be something not found in mainstream science. I'm not given any of this, how is it that no one here is able to even consider other possibilities? Maybe I'm just too optimistic, maybe a bit too open-minded to really know a limit, but still... Edited April 28, 2016 by Brian Topp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted April 28, 2016 #20 Share Posted April 28, 2016 And nothing here has been any assistance what so ever, not sure what I was expecting really... Purely skeptical thinking with a one track mindset that excludes any and all other possibilities. If we truly believe there are things out there that we do not know of yet...how are we expected to learn anything about them when we only utilize the more comfortable and already known solutions to questions and problems? The only reason I came here was d to me being /out/ of probable solutions to this answer. I've looked into the mental health card, whether or not there were any strange sightings of animals in the area or any species of wild dogs that may fit the size and description. I've asked and talked to several people in this person's family to see if there were any signs of depression at the time, or if there were previous experienced that may lead to a desire for attention. I've covered what I can on my own, I'm not asking a community of people within a paranormal and supernatural forum sight /if/ there is any possibility that this could be something not found in mainstream science. I'm not given any of this, how is it that no one here is able to even consider other possibilities? Maybe I'm just too optimistic, maybe a bit too open-minded to really know a limit, but still... You've gotten the best answer which is that this is all in her head. Apparently you don't like that one which presumes you want to deal with a supernatural element and therefore it makes far more sense to go to a place where all the members are true believers and will gladly indulge you and she in your fantasy that a Sumerian dog beast spirit is haunting her. I'm sure they'll come up with something that will neatly match up with her fantasies and this will drag her further into her delusional world rather than help her climb out of it and find out why she is having these bizarre thoughts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted April 28, 2016 #21 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Cthulhu? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Posted April 29, 2016 #22 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1) dog/dog-like 2) red eyes 3) unnatural growling 4) was sound in a graveyard 5) was keeping spirits trapped within the graveyard in order to feed off them 6) Was capable of attaching itself to her and followed her for many years 7) Was of Sumerian descent What does "was sound in a graveyard" mean? I am a little confused, if it this hound was keeping spirits trapped within the graveyard, in order to feed off them. How did the hound follow her for many years?. Also, why did she think that this hound (entity) is of Sumerian descent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted May 2, 2016 #23 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I've asked and talked to several people in this person's family to see if there were any signs of depression at the time, REALLY? sorry, not having it. I think you have made this up. How could you ask her family members a question like this...without causing a lot of worry, a lot of questions to you from her loved ones and possibly a black eye? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrUnexplainable Posted May 3, 2016 #24 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Also, why did she think that this hound (entity) is of Sumerian descent? Interestingly... Sumerians viewed dogs very highly, and I believe in Descent of Innana (a tale that is believed to predate the epic of Gilgamesh) the Goddess Innana takes one of her seven prized hunting dogs to the underworld with her (I think... it's been a very long time since i read it). But, I have heard no myth's or epics or read anything really which depict this type of creature, and it seems odd that something that needs an entire grave yard of souls to feed off of can leave for "several years" and not starve. I'm learning anything is possible, but I don't really buy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted May 3, 2016 #25 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) So, a friend of mine is a pscionic.. Who had an experience when she was younger with an entity that she still does not fully know what it is. Her description of it involves these key points 1) dog/dog-like 2) red eyes 3) unnatural growling 4) was sound in a graveyard 5) was keeping spirits trapped within the graveyard in order to feed off them 6) Was capable of attaching itself to her and followed her for many years 7) Was of Sumerian descent I have been unable to find anything that really matches this, closest thing I could think of was HellHound or Black Dog, but neither fit some of the important traits.. Was wondering if you guys knew anything I don't. For the sake of convince, I'm going to approach this from the notion that it is real and really happened to simplify writing instead of including all the non-existence claimers. I'm approaching this from a lore perspective, not a belief perspective. This list sounds like a couple things put together. The first points lend to a lot of hound lore, as has already been pointed out. Points 5 and 6- those sound more like what has sometimes been attributed to ghouls or other non-corporeal "soul eaters". I'm not terribly well read in this area of lore, so while I remember reading some of this, I really don't know the specific legends off the top of my head. I know some mythology has deities of the underworld that weigh your heart or soul- and destroy or devour the offending bit if you come up on the wrong side of the scale. From my teenage youth.. I remember tales of "somethings" in haunted places that feed off the place, but could follow a person around. I guess kind of like hitching a ride away from home for a while. I have no idea where these particular stories originated, it may have been just local urban legend action. I haven't really thought about those stories in ages. I don't know about Sumerian legends specifically, but I do know that ghoul lore exists that far back. So my guess is that perhaps it was a ghoul or a soul eater. Second best guess would be a demon of some sort perhaps? Again, I don't know this area of lore enough, but I know there are all sorts of fun critters in ancient lore. Edited May 3, 2016 by rashore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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