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[Mentalcase]

Almost every prediction or prophesy states that something will happen around 2000.  Maybe because of this some civilizations are trying to push forward the signs of the end. And damn-it i keep hearing the fighter jets, i live about 5-10 minutes away from the pentagon. I have a strange feeling i should move back west. >:( :'( :( :-/

[reese92]

The jets have been going over my house too, I live about 40 minutes away from the Pentagon.  Very Scary :o :-/ :'(

 I think the reason that you find alot of stories stemming from the year '2000' is because we have always been fascinated by it.  Alot of Sci-Fiction books and movies are centered around alot of different things happening around this time.  

  Reese  :-*

[Mentalcase]

This is a war about good vs. evil, and of course respect.  Where did the Americans go wrong?  (Bush?)  I have a feeling our satellites and spies have upset someone.  I have a hard time seeing a motive for this other then revenge.

[Magikman]

 First,Tommy, how many of Nostradamus's prophesies am I going to have to offer my opinion to? I find it personally repulsive and greatly disturbing that after every major disaster or tragedy in the world, someone has to trot out the cryptic and radically mistranslated writings of a 'failed' prophet. The failure greatly enhanced by the ludicrous and innocuous 'translations' and 'interpretations' offered by supposed 'experts', whose opinions, of course, can only be had by relinquishing one's hard earned cash. Here is a question I have for you; why is it that no one can 'correctly' interpret these true 'prophesies' until after the fact? Might it be that they are so obtuse and nonspecific that they hold little meaning until someone can find some close 'match' to it?  Is it possible that somewhere within the last 500 years since its publication, some coincidences may have occurred throughout history that may have some minuscule relationship to some experts interpretation of a specific 'prophesy'?  We've certainly been witness to the reliability of his prediction about the end of the world, haven't we? Search for the 'meaning' of this specific quatrain (1st century, 87th verse) on google and you will see eight different 'interpretations' on the first page alone. Who are we to believe? This isn't directed specifically at you, Tommy, but I can only marvel at the gullibility and ignorance of people. You are only asking me a question about a highly dubious claim, I am in no way stating that you believe it. There is a thread in the MIND, SPACE & TIME category about Nostradamus(2nd page). Go there for more information and click on the link I provide to a credible and thoroughly researched website on him. It dispells many myths and gives an accurate history of his 'true' life and writings. Believe it or not, it doesn't cost you a dime.

 There are several specifics I would like to answer. First, here is the 'correct' translation to the quatrain and the site I took it from;

 "Volcanic fire from the center of the earth
will cause trembling around the new city:
Two great rocks will make war for a long time.
Then Arethusa will redden a new river."

http://run.to/nostradamus

Quite a difference from your 'translation', isn't it?  Suddenly the interpretation loses much of its similarity to recent events, doesn't it? Notice the one I offer comes directly from the original book which is also prominently displayed. I'm not sure how much 'faith' you have in Henry Robert's, but here are a couple links that delve into his 'reliability' and the inaccuracies of his 'interpretations' in the past. It may open your eyes to the uselessness of attempting any deciphering of Nostradamus's writings. Or not, that is a decision you must make for yourself;

http://lsvl.la.asu.e...prophecies.html

http://asis.com/~stag/endtimes.html

MAGIKMAN

[Dakoda]

Being born in New York City myself, this has brought me TREMENDOUS shock! Knowing the Americans for their pride and ways of revenge, I think we can only expect the worst. My bet goes on Disney Land is the next target. That would REALLY blow USA's top--innocent children trying to enjoy a vacation.  :'(

[Loonboy]

Magikman is absolutely correct. It is possible to read almost anything into the various Nostradamus translations, which in my opinion are plain garbage.
Why don't we focus on the present, on what we can do and our own influence.
Also, why are people so intent on predicting that this is the start of WW3? Don't be so bleak. It's that train of thought that puts people on edge.

[odinsupreme]

Mentalcase asked himself what the Americans did wrong, well, in the most countries they think that they did almost nothing wrong, but some groups (islamic) in the Middle East see the precence of American troops (to protect Saudie-Arabia from Irak) as a threat to their holy places (Mekka and Others) The read the Koran differently than most others and they start the Jihad, a holy war to protect Islamic countries. But remember, almost every country doesn't agree with this, me neither.

Odin Supreme  8)

[Tommy]

Magikman,
       I totally agree with you on the ambiguity of the ‘prophecies’ of Nostradamus, and this is well pointed out in the links you provided. Indeed it is easy to interpret his works to fit any occasion, which is exactly what interpreters have done. Of course I don’t believe that Henry Roberts is any different, and I only used him as a source as I had his book lying unopened on my bookshelf until yesterday, and so I had a look to see if what Mystify had said was true.

Loonboy, you ask a good question. I don’t know why people are so fascinated with predicting the future.??? Surely it comes soon enough; and indeed it is the present, as you said with which we should be concerned.

[Dowdy]

I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this but aren't you a bit tired of all this? i know you Americans are still very sad and shocked about all this but and probably won't agree with me but it's been going on for about 2 and a half days on Australian TV and it can get very tiring listening to the same thing over again. That may sound very mean to say but you only watch the same plane going into the same building so many times that it starts to get annoying after awhile. It's starting to get a bit more interesting now because now they are finding survivors. :)

PS
It's been going on NON STOP on Australian TV for two and a half days. For the first day it was on 24 hours! But now they are putting ad breaks and the occassional show every now and then.



There have been a few funny thing that have happened from this. One of them was when they showed an amature video clip of the second plane going in and you can here a guy in the background saying "HOLY FUCK!" (i would of said the same thing as well) and all the Afganistan websites were shut down because of too much hate mail they were getting. :)

Hey. Isn't that weird??
When i was writing this i had some MP3's playing in the background and "End of the World" by REM was playing and "We Will Survive" by Warp Brothers was playing right after that. Now that's scary :o

Here are a few pictures that kinda relate to the unexplained...





They are ment to be pictures of the devil in the debris when the world trade center went down. You can clearly see faces in there but it's nothing more than coincidence.

[Mr-X]

Today i was listening to the radio and this ex cop was telling a story on how one day he was called up to go and check on a Mosque in Lakemba (A highly populated arab part of sydney)where a fight had broken out between two men. He broke up the fight and was then led by the sheik to his office. When he was in there he saw a poster on the wall of Uncle Sam and underneath it it said "He is going to kill your children" What kind of messanges are these people drilling into people young and old minds.

I also have a lebanese friend who is christian by the way. He told me that these terrorist are promised that when they die they go to heaven and meet with god and  in heaven there will be 72 virgins waiting for each of them. BRAINWASHED.

I am one that does not agree with war. It will never end, even if you wipe out terrorism there is always going to be that one person or child who will suffer from a loss and will wait until the day he or she will strike again. America has to be smart about it and go in and attack only those responsible for the attack. We dont want war in this day and age for it might set us back 40 years. There is too much to risk.

  "He who kills many shall be killed, But only he who kills many"

If there is a war i think it will be biological warfare. America will not use nuclear weapons for the simple reason that Israel is located in the middle east. They are too closely related.

Another thing just before the attack a boat full of Afgan refugees were on Australias coast line. We pissed them off though. My friend believes that these Terrorist have small armies in America and also in other countries around the world. He said that these refs who were coming to Aust were some of them. What i am trying to say is if America or Australia go off to fight there will be riots going on in our own countries. Just something to think about.

                  Peace to all

       Be carefull my unexplained friends


Please look up these sites and tell me what you think.

www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/o,3604,551712,00.html


http://hardtruth.top...tc_disaster.htm







                           

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[Loonboy]

>:(
I know you said that you didn't mean to offend anyone, Dowdy, but I take exception to your posting.
Not only is this an incredibly important event in world history but one that has terrifying implications stemming from it. At the very minimum it will be the start of a frightening conflict between heavily armed nations. At worst it could be the beginning of a mammoth phase of destruction for the world.
I for one find nothing funny about that. And I'm sorry if the coverage interferes with your enjoyment of soaps and gameshows but some of us want to know what is happening.
Also, looking for faces in the smoke trivializes the nature of the trajedy.
Loonboy.

[Dowdy]

I know there is nothing funny about that. I didn't say that was funny and i do follow the news. I watch 30 min before school and about one hour after school. I don't watch soaps, only sitcoms.

Just to clear that up.


And i just want to ask a few questions to the Americans here

1. Are they going to build the towers again? I heard somewhere that they were.

2. Do you think they would of done this if Clinton
was still in office??

This is a question for everyone...

3. There was this clip on art bell that a woman has dreams of the future and everyone has come true and recently she had a dream that in Feburary 11 2002 there will be a nuclear attack in the Western Hemisphere form Iraq. At the time i thought it was just another crazy loon but since this had happened anything is possible. What do you think about this?

Just to recap, i didn't mean offence by my first post. But if you get angry, i understand. :-[

[reese92]

I hope you do understand, if I really don't care too much, right now, if your programming is not on.

One question I am going to answer.  Do I think that this would have happened if Clinton was Pres.?

Why wouldn't it?  Do you think that these terrorist's care who is President?  They are waging a Holy war, which stems deep for them. Something of this magnatude, has taken a long time to plan.  It would have happened regardless of who is Pres.  They have wanted this too happen for a long time.

   Reese

[odinsupreme]

Go to this Link:

http://womv.yoll.net/fuckingOSAMA.gif

And look to the picture of Osama..

Odin Supreme 8)

[odinsupreme]

The * has to be a u. ::)

Odin Supreme  8)