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#1    Homer

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Posted 16 September 2001 - 05:13 AM

   September 11, 2001 terrorism struck the United States. Four airliners were hijacked that morning. One plane smashed into one of the World Trade Center buildings at 8:45am, 15 minuted later one of the other planes smashed into the other World Trade Center building. Shortly after that another plane smashed into a section of the Pentagon. Thousands of people have died. Only the fourth plane didn't reach it's destination.

   The passengers on board, those brave heroes who sacrificed their own lives to save hundreds, perhaps thousands of more lives, wouldn't let that happen. After the terrorists on board that aircraft killed the crew members, it was those courageous passengers who overpowered their captors, forcing the plane to crash in such a location that only the people on board would die.

   What was terrorism thinking? That after such a devasting attack America would be crushed, paralized, and scared to do anything about it, for fear of further attacks on our own soil? And that America would be in chaos, our American friends and family paranoid and our country divided? If that was what they were thinking, they thought wrong. America is united and stronger than ever. Or perhaps they are thinking that this was just the first phase of a protracted war on our homeland, and we should live in fear for years to come. They are wrong in that thinking as well.

   Terrorists do not understand America. The world knows that America is the strongest, richest and most envious nation in the world. Now terrorists know, along with the rest of the world, that the Americans are the proudest in the world, too.  That knowledge has come too late for terrorism, for the United States, with the full support of our almost 300 million citizens, will take this war to them.

   Japan woke up a sleeping giant in 1941, and that sleeping giant, with the help of our allies, went on to defeat Japan along with all of Japan's allies. The sleeping giant has awoken again, and again the world is on our side, and again we will defeat the enemy by bringing the war to them, wherever they are, anywhere in the world.

   September 11, 2001 and the horrific bloodshed that occured that day will never be forgotten. And when this war on terrorism is over, America will still be standing tall and standing proud. I understand that this war could go on for years, but America's resolve and perseverance are known throughout the world and our strength, along with our allies around the world that will fight with us, will put fear in any nation that has previously harbored terrorists.

   This could have happened to any country, and still could. I pray the world will stay united to crush the parasites that continue to plague our homelands.

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Posted 16 September 2001 - 08:49 AM

Good post Homer!


Amen to your last paragraph!

God bless America!

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Posted 16 September 2001 - 12:45 PM

I second that!!

  Tommy

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Posted 17 September 2001 - 04:59 PM

Man, your post is ok, but some pieces of it SUCK! You said:
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The world knows that America is the strongest, richest and most envious nation in the world.


That is why people hate america (not me by the way) but I don't like those words either. All Americans, well al lot of them are always syaing thatnthey are the best, the biggest, well that is america they think that they are so good! >:( >:( It is awfull what happend, I agree, but why do you always have to say that the USA is the best? The first Americans were all poor people that had nothing, they made the USA on the shoulders of millions of slaves and indians! Ever thought of that?

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Posted 17 September 2001 - 05:32 PM

Odin,

I never said, nor even implied that America was the best. Those are your words. What I said America is the strongest, richest and most envious nation in the world. You should know that since you just quoted it yourself.

My statement is a fact and I stand by it. Nobody who contemplates this can argue that fact. Sure there will be those who will argue about it anyways, but that's only because they enjoy to argue.

Simply put, no other country has the freedom, opportunity, space, and different climates that America has to offer. No offense is meant to any other nation, but facts are facts Odin.

Besides, I think when our first President led a ragtag army to defeat the worlds greatest power, that said something about American resolve and tenacity. That's not to downplay any slave involvement, as you brought up, but slavery was practiced throughout the world, and even to this day is practiced throughout much of the world.

Odin, the true meaning of my post was an outlet of the pain I felt(and still feeling) from this tragedy. Please take no offense, and understand the facts I just posted.

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Posted 17 September 2001 - 05:32 PM

Odin,

 I see what you are saying with that, and believe me not everyone thinks that way.  Every nation and all different kinds of people have their own greatness.  

 I find little comfort in war, and what it 'proves' to others'.

    Reese  :-*


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Posted 17 September 2001 - 05:40 PM

Let's all just step back and think about this.

Homer, what makes a country 'rich' and powerful might be things that you like, but not for another.  What Odin, percieves as his 'perfect' place to live, might be something totally different.  What you said Homer, are YOUR facts.  And, you are entitled to the way you feel.  But, I have to admit that I don't see us as the 'greatest' nation.  I love America, but honestly, when our country pays it's actors, and sports stars more than they pay the teachers and fire fighters and true hero's then I see a problem.  We may be rich and powerful, but all that comes with a price.  We have hurt alot of people to get where we are at, and that should be something that ALL people remember for a very long time.  I won't ever forget, and I certainly won't let ego form an untrue opinion of what is really happening.

  Reese  :-*


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Posted 17 September 2001 - 05:54 PM

Teresa,

I understand what you are saying, and I agree with your general line of thought. However, this is a capitalist country, and like all capitalist countries, teachers and firefighters wont make as much as actors and the like. It's called supply and demand. You are one of the reasons why actors get paid so much.

But again, my words are getting twisted by those who simply enjoy to argue. I never mentioned a perfect or greatest country, as you seem to imply that I have.

As I stated before, only those who enjoy to argue(even an arguement they can't win) would argue this, for it is fact.

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Posted 17 September 2001 - 05:59 PM

You did say that, fourth paragragh.  I am not trying to argue, simply voice my opinion, if you are allowed, am I not? And, when there is an argument based on opinion instead of fact, how can anybody either win or lose?
 If you didn't mean it like we are percieving it, then explain to me, how you meant that paragraph, please.


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Posted 17 September 2001 - 06:04 PM

What is fact?  You said in your last sentence to me, that it is fact.  
Everyone in the world knows that this is the greatest, richest country.  That is the fact?  That is not a fact, that is an opinion.  It might be the overwhelming opinion, but it doesn't make it fact.  Someone's paradise might be living in a huge city, and someone else's paradise might be living in a forrest surrounded by nothing but silence.  So, ofcourse the perception of what makes a country the best can differ from person to person, nation to nation.


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Posted 17 September 2001 - 06:18 PM

Teresa,

Perhaps you should re-read the entire thread, for you are looking silly trying to prove your point. As I stated previously, I did not say America is the greatest, best, perfect country, as you said I said.

The fourth paragraph needs no further explaining. Please read it again, and try to understand the facts.

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Posted 17 September 2001 - 06:24 PM

Just explain it then, if you don't mean it like it is being read, then try to reword it.  I am not looking silly, no more than you. I am voicing my opinion, and if that threatens you somehow, I am sorry.  Just because someone doesn't believe what you believe, that makes them silly?  Get the chip off of your shoulder, Adam, and quit forcing your views upon other people.  If what you say is fact, then let it be, don't get angry because someone questions what you are writing. If you don't want the critisim, then don't write what YOU feel publicly.


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Posted 17 September 2001 - 06:31 PM

Teresa,

Your very funny ;D  chip on shoulder, forcing my views, angry...your hilarious ;D

But seriously, since you are the ONLY one in confusion, and the post should seem obvious to those with understanding, I will leave it as is, with no further explaining.

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Posted 17 September 2001 - 06:49 PM

Again, attaching yourself to EVERYBODY..  That is very good. But, once again I just have to say, when two people are discussing something, which seems to be what we are doing, no one else has written with us today, on these subjects.  Then why wouldn't I be the only one in CONFUSION?  I mean you are hell bent that you are right, and then that of course leaves me to be the one in confusion.  If you mean out of all the people on this board, then you can't know that until you have gotten some responses to what has been written.  Just try to relax, and let people think what they want.  I might not always say the most popular thing, and at any time, everyone on this board can give me a spanking, but that is for them to judge, not you.  If they disagree, they will let me know.  No one on this board has a problem with letting me have it.  Everyone has a voice and an opinion, no one person has to be the voice for everyone.  Not even you.


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Posted 17 September 2001 - 07:05 PM

Teresa,

You mean I don't have the voice of this board? Thank you for letting us all know that. You need to practice what you preach. Everyone here believes what they want and can post what they want. That is what I did, and you bit my head off. Not because I'm wrong, but because you enjoy to argue. Calm down Teresa, and don't get so angry just because you don't agree with someone.

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