[Ashley-Star*Child]

Funny you should bring this up as my mother keeps bugging me to buy this book lol. I've read it though, and from past experience with 'the Circle' those two words are not what I want to find in a book. The Greater and lesser keys of Solomon are black magic, involving the conjuring up of demons (Nephillim, that is very much explianed in depth in the actual full account esxcluded text of the Testament of Solomon which is what coul be calld 'white magic' using certain things/valling Holy angels to thwart and RID oneself of such demons from the sky who cause these atrocities) under you command and will. It seems Solomon, who was given power over demons by a Holy angel through a ring, did in fact write these books, but I'd say this came after the 'white magic' one, where he himself seemed almost enslaved by them.

(The star of David was actually Solomon's and it represented the cult of Baal),

It most certainly did not. The Star of David, the six pointed star which I wear is a counter to the 'evil eye', and is also representative of the Tetragrammaton - the THRONE OF GOD - which is the same shape but 3D in all directions.

The 'evil eye', in case you're wondering can be found here:



Both the Heavens and the hells reside in space.

This post has been edited by Ashley-Star*Child: 03 August 2005 - 12:57 PM

[Bio-Mage]

Maybe the books are descriptions of the science behind Solomon's feats. Nothing magical with what we know today but it would read like magic back then.

[Baldwin]

These books are a very good read. I myself prefer other grimoires but thier still good books.

[que.sera.sera]

What do you think of these myserious books?
Are they really from King Solomon...?
Did he REALLY get the knowledge of controling
spirits from God? or was it the devil?

It was the aliens! Haha, jkjk.

I don't actually know much about 'the key of solomon'
So you're saying that Solomon used these books to control demons, but that that must be wrong, because Solomon is a servant of God (or he is in the Bible, anyway)

Maybe it was a different Solomon... it is a quite common name. Or perhaps one of these 'Solomons' is a mere myth; they cannot be the same person.

It sounds intriguing... keep puzzling!

[staver]

I've heard of these books, but haven't read them. There are many places online that speak of them, so I don't know why google wouldn't come up with anything.

Here is a link, I'll try to find more:
www.esotericarchives.com/esoteric.htm

If you're interested, there is a good fictional book by Jonathan Stroud called
"The Amulet of Samarkand", which is the first in "The Bartimeus Trilogy", Bartimeus being a "djinn", (they don't like the word demon) who is summoned by a young magician to help him thwart some enemies. It's written from the djinn's point of view, and is filled with footnotes about their interaction with man.

Here's a link to that authors site:

www.bartimaeustrilogy.com/

[Baldwin]

I don't understand why no one can find this on google. I had little to no trouble in locating these texts online. This could be good in my opinion though, because the occult is not meant for all to share. I don't think everyone is meant to understand it.

[AdvocateCR]

I have read the Greater Key of Solomon, although I have not envoked anything using the practice. I would give great thought and caution to even starting. In the book it describes some pretty intimidating creatures, but also it is very specific about days and times to do every tiny ritual and that not adhering to the astrological/earth system it contains could render the ritual ineffective or adverse anyway. I think it would take a VERY devoted person to adhere to all the rules and to maintain a purity in soul and body too. I'm a curious person, but frankly, to be honest, I know how important those rules are, and I don't have the TIME to get so specific. I do believe in the spirits and that they can be summoned with the sigils. At one time I brought something forth before reading the Greater Key, and it was foolish naive thinking that I could control something so...intense? I think I am fortunate that the spirit that came forth was/is still a good being. You will note that the Greater Key mentions prayers to God in his truer name in Hebrew in all rituals, so maybe it isn't so evil. I don't know. All I know is that I asked permission and the blessing of God to bring forth the entity. However, before doing all that, you might want to read up on how to make them go bye bye too, otherwise you might be jumping from the frying pan directly into a fire you can't contain. Spirits, and demons can be extremely dangerous. There are good spirits and bad, and you will know which is which when you encounter them. Anyway, just some thoughts to ponder.

[Night Star]

Conjuring demons sounds dangerous. why would anyone want to?

This post has been edited by Night Star: 26 August 2005 - 12:48 AM

[Faith Saturn]

I think the idea of the Gotia is brilliant. It may not necessarily work, but then again many do not believe that spirits exist, and some who are athiests do not believe in God. It is a simple thing that people have different views, so perhaps those who truely believe this will work, would be able to see something- whether it is the mind creating a fictional object, or a real one, is to be proved.

It is the same as all science, but I do believe with the many stories I have read over the internet and different forums and search sites, that perhaps there is a possibility it could be true.

I used to study the occult, and the Key Of Solomon was one of the more interesting subjects for me (obviously it involves getting what you want in life, thus the selfish interest). Yet, tonight, which is why very much I am online, I dreamed of it. Now, I stopped two to three years ago reading about these books, so how come it comes up now? Yet I believe in my dream the demon I summoned for help- Baal- (and I have no reason or recognition of why he looked like this) had three heads. I cannot remember much of his looks, merely that he is sneaky and kept edging towards me, and for in my dream I had not his sign or a proper circle cast, he was free to move.

The dream is long and complicated, but I remember the sneak said he would grant two things that I had asked, before he turned on me.

Now why would I dream of something that I had not thought of in years, and why did he come in the image of whatever it was (I believe lizard/dragon typed heads?), when I do not recall the book saying he does?

Well, back to the subject, you can find the Gotia almost anywhere on the internet, including the PDF Files.

And it likely does work for some, who believe in it with their whole, set it out perfectly, yada yada.

It is just simply a matter of faith.

[Wearer of Hats]

DarkEntity99 on Jan 29 2005, 07:33 AM, said:

What do you think of these myserious books?
Are they really from King Solomon...?
Did he REALLY get the knowledge of controling
spirits from God? or was it the devil?

Solomon was called "wise" for a reason you know. He was "just" because he ruled well, but he knew bucket loads of stuff.

Simple question: Would God have entrusted the Ark of the Covenant to someone who had any connection with the Devil?
Nope.
Therefore Solomon's knowledge wasn't satanic in origin.

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And why is Solomon in the bible but yet he wrote his own secret books... showing us how to summon and release demons... if he served god..?

Because the purpose to which he turned those daemons was God's work.
To followers of the Abrahamic religions, everything that is, is a result of God's work. Somethings have been perverted by man, others teh Devil.
But all is "of God's hand", if you get my drift.
So logically there is no "magic is bad, man" in that light. It is like any power, the ends justify the name, not the means.

[CausticGnostic]

These mystical books were written as means of keeping intellectually stunted people preoccupied with meaningless "arcane knowledge," and to waste their time on useless rituals trying to summon and control non-existent spiritual beings. So, in that sense, the books are good. The more intellectually stunted people who are tied up wasting their time, the better off the world is.

[lilpepper]

Lesser Key of Solomon...I clicked on that link and found it very interesting..August is my birthday
and last August I had 3 visitors...they were in a triangle with some kind of writing on it...awesome looking
triangles if I must say...one of the triangles had a black mist spirit..and the other 2 were just faces...
immediately I said If you are not of God get back..as soon as I said God they moved back...I commanded them
to leave..but guess they thought they could hang around till they decided to leave....I turned over and went
to sleep...when I woke up they were gone and have not seen those particular spirits again...
a lilpeppers experience.. believe it or not....

[Wearer of Hats]

lilpepper on Apr 28 2009, 04:29 AM, said:

Lesser Key of Solomon...I clicked on that link and found it very interesting..August is my birthday
and last August I had 3 visitors...they were in a triangle with some kind of writing on it...awesome looking
triangles if I must say...one of the triangles had a black mist spirit..and the other 2 were just faces...
immediately I said If you are not of God get back..as soon as I said God they moved back...I commanded them
to leave..but guess they thought they could hang around till they decided to leave....I turned over and went
to sleep...when I woke up they were gone and have not seen those particular spirits again...
a lilpeppers experience.. believe it or not....

A couple of things.
(1) This is the "ancient mysteries" part of the forum, not the ghosts/paranomal section.
(2) the "..." isn't a comma, or a full stop. It's normally used as a shorthand of saying "I edited stuff out for brevity's sake" in formal essay style writing.
(3) Different name, same style. Are you the bloke with the talking rocks?

[lilpepper]

Thank you....I know where to place this now....you have been much help......

[ashes-to-ashes]

You guys can find a little different but similar info if you google Prophet Suleman.