[aquatus1]

Well, there is Revelation 11:19: "Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm."

However, this arc is the real thing, while the arc that was carried around was only a relic representing the covenant of God, so perhaps the relic is still around on earth somewhere.

[poof-gone]

It was a radio taken out of the "pillar of smoke by day, fire by night" spaceship that led the Israelites around for 40 years until all those that worshipped the Egyptian Gods were dead, and their children who knew not the difference between good and evil could then invade Canaan.

The spaceship obviously was leaking radiation since Moses came back from it with his hair turned white and him glowing. Explains why the bush looked like it was burning that was near the spaceship. And explains why contact with the Ark of the Covenant radio would kill people, besides the electrical shock.

The radio was so Moses and God in the wilderness could stay in contact with Ahknaton back in Egypt that was turning the original worship of the Egyptian Gods into the worship of the "one God." Just like what they were training the children of the Israelites in the wilderness to do.

[aquatus1]

It was a radio taken out of the "pillar of smoke by day, fire by night" spaceship that led the Israelites around for 40 years

How do you support that?

The spaceship obviously was leaking radiation since Moses came back from it with his hair turned white and him glowing. Explains why the bush looked like it was burning that was near the spaceship. And explains why contact with the Ark of the Covenant radio would kill people, besides the electrical shock.

Radiation doesn't turn hair white. Nor does it make people noticeably glow (that is just a common joke derived from radioactive chemicals that do indeed glow). Also, radiation, by definition, does not require contact; it would have radiated out from the arc, killing the four people holding the poles, not just the person touching the arc.

[Gabriel]

If lighting struck the arc it would melt and burn. im pritty sure, i dot know what tep gold melts at but lighting is HOT! it struck my flag pole and melted it, rember gold is a soft metal. God not only dwelled in it but
aarons rod is in it, the tablets,and a fue others, it also might have gottn power from these items, becuase god made these things happen.
that is if u look at it that way. The arc is know for unexplainable power, and i think it might befound under the dome of the rock.i mean if the jews wanted that land real bad they would do more to get it, but i think they know the arc is under there and it will be "found".

[dmgspycat]

Well, there is Revelation 11:19:  "Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm."

However, this arc is the real thing, while the arc that was carried around was only a relic representing the covenant of God, so perhaps the relic is still around on earth somewhere.

dmgspycat: I hear that the probability of the resting place of the ark is supposedly at Rosslyn Chapel England...a site that mimics the temple of Soloman. Some kind of Templar connection...ever heard of it?

[Neo2005]

I've heard the ARk has in it the remnants of the 10 commandments and is now under gaurd in some temple in Ethiopia it's really hard to say weather it exists or not but if it does and someone found it it would be the biggest archeological and religious relic ever!

[Bio-Mage]

Maybe the falacy of all those theories can be attributed to the fact that the mysterious phenomena reported are all directly attached to the Arc. Perhaps things like the leprocy and geological instabilities where random events that coinsided with its presence. As for the ability to kill people touching it, I suppose if the capacitor or radiation theories seem to be lacking, we could always leave room for something far more sophistcated and technologically advanced to have been in there. Who is to tell if the arc actually held stone plates or something that may appeared that way.

The Etheopian Arc is probably a false claim, for guarded by one monk, it means that someone would have easily checked if the relic was there or not. There are simply too many religious people who would have teared a whole army apart to get to it, let alone one man.

The only reason much of this remains a mystery is because today most of the proposed sites for excavation happen to be active religious spots. Although I doubt if they would ever want anyone to find it.

[et's daddy]

well i have seen a show where the arc is guarded by a single monk

but the monk has an armed guard looking out for him

[Phineas]

[quote=Athenian,Feb 13 2005, 04:24 AM]
It is a radio to God...

Howdy Athenian, and I thought I was all alone.

The Ark of the Covenant must be a radio or transmitter of sorts because of the following:

Speaking to Moses the Lord said:
Exo 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will COMMUNE with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] UPON THE ARK of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

Thats how Moses got his instructions - I wonder if those cherubims were aerials or whatever.

And again:

Num 7:89 And when Moses was gone into the tabernacle of the congregation to SPEAK with him, then he HEARD the voice of one speaking unto him from off the mercy seat that [was] UPON THE ARK of testimony, from between the two cherubims: and he SPAKE unto him...

Jdg 20:27 And the children of Israel ENQUIRED of the LORD, (for the ARK of the covenant of God [was] there in those days,

Jdg 20:28 And Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron, STOOD BEFORE IT in those days,) SAYING, Shall I yet again go out to battle against the children of Benjamin my brother, or shall I cease? And the LORD SAID, Go up; for to morrow I will deliver them into thine hand.

and once more:

Num 7:89 And when Moses was gone into the tabernacle of the congregation to SPEAK with him, then he HEARD THE VOICE of one SPEAKING unto him from off the mercy seat that [was] upon the ark of testimony, from between the two cherubims: and he SPAKE unto him.

No doubt about it Athenian - it was a radio.

DRAT! there goes the unexplained mystery - all we are left with is the truth.

Regards

This post has been edited by Phineas: 22 February 2005 - 03:13 AM

[KevinM]

The bible suggests its a radio(sort of) with God yes. The ludicrous claim it has any thing to do with space ships smacks of the dribble invented by Erik Van Deinaken. Saying it was the Judeo Christian god is no longer politicaly correct so it must have been the most popular supernatural of the moment aliens. Tell me is there any credible evidence aliens exist any more then there is evidence that God does? Nope in fact theres less evidence as aliens are a purely modern phenomenon where encounters with God maintain extreme consistency over thousands of years.

As for the abilities of the ark biblicaly speaking it could be used as a weapon. True the power comes from God but it is channeled through the ark itself(for the record Moses had more then 10 commandments in it btw). It was supposed to level mountains, destroy armies, kill any unworthy person who so much as touched it let alone looked inside(yes what happened to the nazis in INdiana Jones is based on traditional beliefs about the Ark). I've always thought that it would be nice if Hitler had found the religious artefacts he sought. If the stories are true those artefacts would have pretty much obliterated the Nazis.

[Stellar]

Tell me is there any credible evidence aliens exist any more then there is evidence that God does? Nope in fact theres less evidence as aliens are a purely modern phenomenon where encounters with God maintain extreme consistency over thousands of years.

I wouldnt say so. General rule of thumb is, if it happened here, it can happen again.

Some people actually believe that some of the gods in the past WERE aliens.

Oh and phenomena of god remains extreemly consistent over thousands of years? How so? We've got SOOOOO many conflicting religions...

[KevinM]

I know some people hold the theory that god is an alien. I think its a load of pc hogwash that they can't prove.

As to conflicting religions thats just it. Religious people argue, religions agree on a great many points. Some examples: the golden rule is largely universal in different phrasings, most if not all beleive in a divine creation, most believe in an inteligent benevolent deity, almost all of them have a flood story. For that matter the Roman Catholic Church has remained consistent on the vast majority of its doctorine for well over a thousand years. Judaism has existed for thousands of years largely unchanged. The idea of aliens was invented in the west(in Asia they don't see ufos they see flying dragons) and only after the advent of the science fiction genre.

[KevinM]

Also ever simply consider the possibility UFO people have the whole thing backwards? That aliens and UFOs are in reality just spirits either being misinterprited by people or altering hte way they manifest to suit a more modern view point. The way supposed aliens and ufos behave is often very inconsistent with the believe they are in any way physical(the extreme speeds, sharp 90 degree turns, passing through solid objects).

[dmgspycat]

The whole ark story could be made up just like the book of Job...who knows? I guess we are speculating that if it did exist and was capable of killing , then what was behind it? What kind of technology? I have heard that the Egyptians had drawings of this thing...meaning that the whole contraption was Egyptian technology. So if the Egyptians could fool the masses with this boom -box then I guess Moses thought so too. He was raised Egyptian Royalty right?

[Stellar]

I know some people hold the theory that god is an alien. I think its a load of pc hogwash that they can't prove.

You cant prove god neither so whats the difference? A belief is a belief.

As to conflicting religions thats just it. Religious people argue, religions agree on a great many points. Some examples: the golden rule is largely universal in different phrasings, most if not all beleive in a divine creation, most believe in an inteligent benevolent deity, almost all of them have a flood story. For that matter the Roman Catholic Church has remained consistent on the vast majority of its doctorine for well over a thousand years. Judaism has existed for thousands of years largely unchanged. The idea of aliens was invented in the west(in Asia they don't see ufos they see flying dragons) and only after the advent of the science fiction genre.

But the thing is... many of those claim that their gods are the only true gods and the rest are false/non existant. While you've got similar rules... many of them are to be expected. The gods themselves, however, are inconsistent. One religion has 110 gods, the other has 50 some, blah blah... and they're really quite different.

Also ever simply consider the possibility UFO people have the whole thing backwards? That aliens and UFOs are in reality just spirits either being misinterprited by people or altering hte way they manifest to suit a more modern view point. The way supposed aliens and ufos behave is often very inconsistent with the believe they are in any way physical(the extreme speeds, sharp 90 degree turns, passing through solid objects).

People do believe that, yet. But as I stated above, other people dont believe in god and believe that the gods were all aliens. Others dont believe those gods existed at all and that the UFO subject is completely unrelated to that.