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#1    Bizarro

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Posted 09 May 2003 - 05:28 PM

                                                  Saruman, i am thinking something strange is going on around here lately.  i think someone on this board (or someone booted from it)  is having a little fun creating these nonsensical 'foreigner' personalities that post stupid topics in all the forums.  we all know the swedish bad speller twins, but today there is someone from Kuwait posting about a friend wanting to marry her cousin.  also, ive noticed a lot of idiotic posters in general that aren't registered but still post nonsense posts.  now, this could be real but i also think something is up.

for example, i noticed awhile back Gnatti joined and left very quickly.  all the while, 'she' was stirring up old issues on the boards and looking for a fight about things.  i also received private messages from 'her' that tried to basically get me to say bad things about the moderators/admins (which of course, i did not).  she was also supposedly from Alabama (which i think was some kind of ploy to make me trust her more).  

what im saying is, can't you find out who is responsible for this crap?  its cluttering a nice forum and it appears to be getting worse.  this is just my opinion, and i could be wrong about them being fakes but something just doesn't add up...                                                  

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Posted 09 May 2003 - 05:44 PM

                                                  DS,

I don't think there's anything particularly strange going on, there's no reason to suspect that these are all the same person. For one thing they have different IP addresses, and have been seen logged on at the same time - someone would have to be going to an awful lot of trouble to do that, with no obvious reason to.

The member you referred to from Kuwait - I don't think there's anything suspicious there either. Jera and Kimm have been seen on-line at the same time, and I don't think there's any link between them and the other people you mentioned anyway. I didn't see much of Gnatti on the board, but it seems he/she had a different IP address again.

Unless there's an obvious troublemaker at work, there's not much I can do. So far I haven't seen any evidence that anyone you've mentioned has been deliberately trying to cause problems.                                                  


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Posted 09 May 2003 - 05:50 PM

                                                  what about Kimm and Jera?  the spelling is not even close to being accidental/bad english, as ive seen them misspell the same word 2 totally different ways.  its just totally arbitrary and done for a show.  you have to know that is someone just posting nonsense!  

and as for someone going to a lot of trouble did you see that Kimm went and set up a website (albeit a crappy one) just to post a link to his 'proof'?  someone really has time on their hands...                                                  

if there was a meteor,
adrift amongst space,
set about on a collision course
not with Earth, but my face...
i wonder if id even know,
at what time i might,
be passed off like an old style
and by the meteor be smite?

- me, 1997

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Posted 09 May 2003 - 05:51 PM

                                                  The only minor problem I've dealt with lately has to do with 'king pillow' and one or two other posts I deleted from other anonomous 'guests' because they were vulgar or nonsensical. 'King' used 3 different guest names the first day, and was basically asking the same questions in multiple threads and being silly. He seems to have calmed down a bit, so I don't really have a problem with him for now.  unsure.gif

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* - Just saw your reply above. From time to time we will have to deal with nonsense, that's the nature of a public forum, but if its harmless and non-vulgar, it's more a nuisance then anything else.

** - I personally thought 'Gnatti' might have been JoJo, given his propensity for employing multiple proxies, but that was just my feeling.

*** - One other thing I wanted to mention, and then I'll stop, I promise.  tongue.gif  We walk a fine line when it comes to moderating a forum, we don't wish to appear heavy handed or unfairly intolerant (sound familiar?), however, there are limits. What constitutes acceptability is feedback like yours and similar feelings from other members, concerns which can influence the moderation of content and behavior to a great degree.                                                  

Edited by Magikman, 09 May 2003 - 08:08 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2003 - 06:00 PM

                                                  The threads involving Kimm and Jera are questionnable I admit, but I can't stop them from posting based on bad spelling. It might all be for show, but then again it might not, and unless they are being deliberately disruptive on the forum, there's not a lot to be done.                                                  


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Posted 10 May 2003 - 03:00 AM

                                                  <cough> king pillow  mad.gif                                                  

if there was a meteor,
adrift amongst space,
set about on a collision course
not with Earth, but my face...
i wonder if id even know,
at what time i might,
be passed off like an old style
and by the meteor be smite?

- me, 1997

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 04:16 AM

                                                  Duly noted. I sent him an IM.                                                  

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 04:49 AM

QUOTE (DSchwartz @ May 9 2003, 05:50 PM)
what about Kimm and Jera?  the spelling is not even close to being accidental/bad english, as ive seen them misspell the same word 2 totally different ways

                                                  I'm not such a big fan of using this as something against them.  I have worked with / mentored / assisted many people who use english as a second language (or third, fourth, etc) and this is a fairly common thing to do.  In fact, I have done it myself, and chances are if anyone looks back at their posts, they will have done it on occasion as well.  

When looking at their attempts at some words, it is pretty clear that some of them are phonetically spelled out, just like in the old Planetfall text adventure from Infocom (poor Floyd, I wish he didn't have to die).  Yes, it makes communication difficult, but under the circumstances it is probably unavoidable.

Did I comment on Kimm's spelling at one point?  Certianly, but I feel I was more than justified since she was attacking the spelling of another person while committing 4 more errors in the process.

                                                  


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Posted 10 May 2003 - 06:00 AM

                                                  well, as a person who speaks spanish, korean, and some german let me tell you that only a careless person misspells words in a foreign tongue- a person much to careless to go to the trouble of learning one.  most of the time, i will keep my dictionary/grammar book nearby to make sure i am doing things properly.  now, i can understand irregular verb problems but Kimm and Jera have no trouble with those things at all.  i have a very limited knowledge of norwegian and if swedish is anything like norwegian, they should not be making the mistakes they are making.  

their grammar/misspelled words are totally random and nonsensical.  they seem to grasp very complex use of common tongue, whereas a student of a foreign language usually sticks to speaking/writing in a very formal manner.  

here's a simple test for ya.  ask Kimm or Jera to write something about ghosts in swedish and see if they can actually pull it off biggrin.gif

                                                  

if there was a meteor,
adrift amongst space,
set about on a collision course
not with Earth, but my face...
i wonder if id even know,
at what time i might,
be passed off like an old style
and by the meteor be smite?

- me, 1997

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Posted 21 May 2003 - 12:12 PM

                                                  am I that bad ...  sad.gif
It is just a topic  sad.gif
If you do not want me in this web site .. well I can just leave if you really do not want me  sad.gif
But I do not blame you ((DSchwartz)) but I blame my self for joining this web site if some people do not accept me sad.gif
I feel very sad that you said that about me .. Just maybe that I am form Kuwait ... and I know that that is the reason you said that about me  sad.gif                                                  

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Posted 21 May 2003 - 12:25 PM

                                                  DJ,

This is an old thread from several weeks ago. When it was first posted there had been a large number of postings from some suspicious new members who were all thought to be the same person, and it was initially assumed that you could also be that same person.

This was not a personal dig at you, nobody here has anything against either you, or people from Kuwait. This was simply an observation relating to someone else's suspicious activities that turned out to be nothing.                                                  


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Posted 21 May 2003 - 05:21 PM

                                                  Well i feel better now that you said that .. but does ((DSchwartz)) mean that Kimm and Jera are one person .. or does he mean some one else.. sad.gif
because I know Kimm ... If he lied... he would tell the truth by the second minute he tells the lie  sad.gif                                                  

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Posted 21 May 2003 - 05:25 PM

                                                   wink.gif And you would know Kimm how exactly?
                                                  

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Posted 21 May 2003 - 05:26 PM

                                                  Djdodo, just ignore me.  Saruman summed up exactly what i would say, so i don't feel the need to type it again.

i would never hold being from Kuwait against you.                                                    

if there was a meteor,
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set about on a collision course
not with Earth, but my face...
i wonder if id even know,
at what time i might,
be passed off like an old style
and by the meteor be smite?

- me, 1997

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Posted 22 May 2003 - 08:57 AM

                                                  Well I can't tell you how close we are ((Celticwitch)) but what I can say is that we are Best Friends smile.gif                                                  

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