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#1    Sunofone

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 12:21 PM

is this what bush means by "tort" reform?
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"WASHINGTON — The latest chapter in the legal history of torture is being written by American pilots who were beaten and abused by Iraqis during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. And it has taken a strange twist.

The Bush administration is fighting the former prisoners of war in court, trying to prevent them from collecting nearly $1 billion from Iraq that a federal judge awarded them as compensation for their torture at the hands of Saddam Hussein's regime.

The rationale: Today's Iraqis are good guys, and they need the money.

The case abounds with ironies. It pits the U.S. government squarely against its own war heroes and the Geneva Convention.

Many of the pilots were tortured in the same Iraqi prison, Abu Ghraib, where American soldiers abused Iraqis 15 months ago. Those Iraqi victims, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has said, deserve compensation from the United States.

But the American victims of Iraqi torturers are not entitled to similar payments from Iraq, the U.S. government says.

"It seems so strange to have our own country fighting us on this," said retired Air Force Col. David W. Eberly, the senior officer among the former POWs.

The case, now being appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, tests whether "state sponsors of terrorism" can be sued in the U.S. courts for torture, murder or hostage-taking. The court is expected to decide in the next two months whether to hear the appeal.

Congress opened the door to such claims in 1996, when it lifted the shield of sovereign immunity — which basically prohibits lawsuits against foreign governments — for any nation that supports terrorism. At that time, Iraq was one of seven nations identified by the State Department as sponsoring terrorist activity. The 17 Gulf War POWs looked to have a very strong case when they first filed suit in 2002. They had been undeniably tortured by a tyrannical regime, one that had $1.7 billion of its assets frozen by the U.S. government.

The picture changed, however, when the United States invaded Iraq and toppled Hussein from power nearly two years ago. On July 21, 2003, two weeks after the Gulf War POWs won their court case in U.S. District Court, the Bush administration intervened to argue that their claims should be dismissed.

"No amount of money can truly compensate these brave men and women for the suffering that they went through at the hands of this very brutal regime and at the hands of Saddam Hussein," White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters when asked about the case in November 2003.

Government lawyers have insisted, literally, on "no amount of money" going to the Gulf War POWs. "These resources are required for the urgent national security needs of rebuilding Iraq," McClellan said."

http://www.latimes.com/la-na-pow15feb15.story

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 04:06 AM

This is disgusting for the goverment to do. Those guys deserve every d#$& penny.

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 04:10 AM

good ol' bush again  angry.gif


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Posted 03 April 2005 - 06:47 AM

I read about this a couple of years ago when they first denied them their payments by claiming that the US (or rather the coalition) had seized Iraq's assets, so there was no money for Iraq to pay them.  I thought then, and I still think, that this is a hell of a way to treat a hero!

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 07:48 AM

he's stuck between a rock and a hard place



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Posted 04 April 2005 - 02:00 PM

paying for those guys is something I would gladly pay taxes for instead of some Dem senator's helicopter rides.  Current Iraq does have some responsibility imo, but...  we're the "richest" nation... I don't mind paying for tortured soldiers...  We gotta take care of those guys.





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