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[cherrypine]

There's another strange hole in the u.s.  Perhaps everyone's heard of it.  It is called Mel's Hole.  There is a website on the net pertaining to the hole.  It is supposed to have strange things that went on in it.  Don't know if its true or not but interesting.

[Cyaneyed]

Had a nosey on google and found a couple of relevant things:

"The Gowrow and the Devil's Hole"

For more than a century, inhabitants of rural Arkansas have spoken of a twenty-foot-long tusked lizard called the gowrow, reputedly lurking within caverns and under rock ledges. In 1897, one was supposedly killed near Marshall by traveling salesman William Miller, who claimed that he dispatched its carcass to the Smithsonian Institute, but there is no record of its arrival.

Sometime prior to 1935, near the village of Self in Boone Conunty, a gowrow allegedly inhabited the Devil's Hole, a deep cave who's mouth opened on the estate of E.J. Rhodes. One day, after hearing a commotion emanating from the Devil.s Hole's undergound recesses, Rhodes decided to investigate by lowering himself into its shaft and descending via rope to a ledge 200 feet beneath the opening.

Below this point the shaft was too narrow to permit further descent, so Rhodes failed to satisfy his curiosity - which was probably just as well. When some men lowered a flatiron down to the same level that Rhodes had reached, a loud angry hising noise was plainly heard. They heard it again when they repeated the procedure, this time using a large stone attached to the rope. Moreover, when they drew the rope back up they discovered that the stone was gone. The section of the rope holding it had been completely bitten through!

Slightly different account there huh?

Also I found an article on espn.com of all places, apparently there is a bay in Arkansas near some power stations called Devil's hole which is a popular fishing spot.

Maybe someone heard talk of the fishing spot and made their own assumptions from the name, and through a series of chinese whispers we came to this point. Hmm.

[CaitSith]

Cendari on Jun 6 2005, 03:47 PM, said:

I live a county over in MO.  I haven't heard of it, but then again there are lot's of caves in the area.

The best thing I can think of is a very large snake or snakes, and not a lizard.  You would be surprised how big our rattle snakes in the Ozarks get.  My family and I have seen rattlers as big as full grow boa constrictors.  Even I can't believe it sometimes.  Although it's probably not impossible for a lizard to get that big, I've never seen one in the area or heard one of being reported.  Maybe someone let a pet loose.

Also in some of those caves could be hives for large snake colonies.

Other things could be mountain lions, they hiss and such.

If you want something more far fetched, maybe a Bigfoot.  There have been a few reports in the Ozarks, but not many.

You never call tell what's up in them there hills.   

Hannibal is actually pretty far from the Ozarks, I actually live there though. There are many caves around here and a lot of weird stories but as far as I know there is no giant lizard related to them

[Jet-Lee]

Sorry to bring back from the dead, but thought this might be a little interesting for ya'll.

I found this thread during a search for the location of Devil's Hole, as Self, AR is only a couple hours from me and I intend on trying to find the cave.

During an earlier search on Ted's Cave, I found the following:

http://www.jonjasper.com/MapGallery/InterstateMap.рdf

Interstate Cave in Utah.

Take care!

-Jet-

Edited by Jet-Lee, 30 November 2007 - 10:06 PM.

[Jet-Lee]

Jet-Lee on Nov 30 2007, 04:06 PM, said:

Sorry to bring back from the dead, but thought this might be a little interesting for ya'll.

I found this thread during a search for the location of Devil's Hole, as Self, AR is only a couple hours from me and I intend on trying to find the cave.

During an earlier search on Ted's Cave, I found the following:

<a href="http://www.jonjasper.com/MapGallery/InterstateMap.рdf" target="_blank">http://www.jonjasper.com/MapGallery/InterstateMap.рdf</a>

Interstate Cave in Utah.

Take care!

-Jet-

I’ve done a bit more [successful] digging.

Devil’s Hole Cave is NOT located in Self, AR. It is owned by E.J. Rhodes and is now known as Diamond Cave. It is located about 20 miles southwest of Yellville, or right next to Jasper and Ponca. It’s closed off, as well. How’d I find out? Here:

Look at bottom for land owner and location of “Devil’s Hole”:
http://www.ufoinfo.com/roundup/v04/rnd04_09.shtml

Look towards bottom for name of cave:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/dat...ticleID=0029934

Look at location of Diamond Cave:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=di...sa=N&tab=il

One in the same? I think so. I think the thing in Self, AR is just that, a sinkhole.

[OzarkHowler]

I live down in Ripley County, Missouri, we are in the Ozarks down here, a lot of caves too, as far as I know there isn't any scary cave beasts here, but I have heard about this cave before

[DfizzleShizzle]

Anyone know the cords. of the cave? So maybe someone could try to google earth it or sometin.



EDIT: This also seems kinda familiar to the Mel's hole thread that was posted a little while back. Cept instead of a cave I think it was like a small hole in the ground that went down hundreds of feet or sometin. Someone should chekc the familiararaties of the two stores

Edited by Heartagram3200, 14 July 2008 - 10:33 PM.

[Undeadskeptic]

Is this related to the Boomer? Said to be either a giant lizard or dinosaur of the North American mountains.

[Rob008]

There is a 1975 movie called Encounter with the Unknown. The movie tells two stories. The second one pertains to hole in Missiouri. The story goes a boy loses his dog and thinks fell into this strange hole on his dad's property. The dad goes down the hole and comes up screaming with his hair white. Now, does this story sound familiar. I'm attaching the link from youtube. I'm not putting the first story. Great movie.

[DieChecker]

I was going down the thread titles and saw one by Mr_Halo. I was like... whoa this has got to be like a 5 or 6 year old thread, as Halo has been gone a long time.

Anyway, thanks for the youtube link. Wonder why the dog went down the hole.

[zednuts]

Great thread guys. Don't take this as criticism but the original story reminds me of events at a goldmine near here. In the 1930's two miners became annoyed by the big Irishman working with them. He was always pushing them out of the way to be the first man at the rockface. Well they started whispering stories that the mine was haunted. The superstitous irishman wasn't impressed till one day he raced down the mine as usual but this time there was a mighty shreik and he flew up the ladder nearly as quick as he'd gone down. That day he packed and left refusing to discuss why.

Turns out they'd put a koala down there at the end of the tunnel  

[ropenseeker]

The third edition of the nonfiction book "Live Pterosaurs in America" includes a sighting of a flying creature seen in Arkansas. It is thought to live in caves during the day, although this particular eyewitness did not mention that possibility, only what was seen flying:

". . . me and my older brother were sitting in our carport at Union Village Apartments, in Texarkana, AR. It was getting dark but there was plenty of light in the sky when we saw what we believe to be a pterodactyle. The wingspan seemed to be about 25’ to 30’ ft wide. It was probably about 70’ to 80’ off the ground, flying over a large tree in front of the house. I never saw the wings flap; it just glided on air. The incident was very brief but nonetheless was an awesome sight to see. If someone would have told me that they had seen a creature like that, I doubt I would have believed the story until I saw it for myself. . . . We did not see any signs of feathers, just sharp edged wings, the sharp pointed beak, and the sharp pointed crest on its head. . . . I have looked at my dinosaur book and the picture of the pteranodon looked like what we saw."