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Um...can ghosts kill you? Can Demons kill you to?


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#16    telirium

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:52 AM

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But how can a ghost attack you?  unsure.gif

they can't because they don't exist. same for demons.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:23 AM

I assume they can, as someone (I apologize for not mentioning your name) has pointed out they do throw things at you. They can with force but recently someone had posted a ghost documentary wherein one instance a poltergeist had terroriized a family and was (not throwing) pushing around chairs and tables. What I found interestng is that while a little girls chair was being pushed away from the table, the mother was able to hold it down with just simple force, no real strength needed. The poltergeist had also been able to push the table. In another instance, a different poltergeist was able to pull (note I say pull as friction would have stopped a push) a chair across a floor at a quite fast rate. Yet in another instance another poltergeist had been able to pull it but at a slower rate. Thus brings up the question, is it an ability that has to be trained and practised? I'd imagine it would be like the movie Ghost, where telekneisis is used but practised. Who knew how long that ghost had to practise before it was able to pull that chair at such a speed? Perhaps this is one of the many secrets that death reveals to us. Yet, it seems only the ill-minded ghosts stick around to move things about, there comes to mention, what happens to the other good amount of ghosts who are not mentally ill or ill tempered?

But I wouldn't worry too much. If it becomes a problem, any military will be able to handle it. It's just that no one has seen it as a threat, but if it is, then they will find a way to harm ghosts, probably using electromagnetic field related weapons.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:28 AM

If i'm a ghost and will scare a person with heart ailment, they are dead for sure.
As for demons, not all will follow you.
When i go back to the place where i was possessed, that bloody thing still there
and trying to possess me again. I think some of them are territorial and won't move.


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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:47 AM

Okay first of all, there is no such thing as demons. The whole concept of demonic spirits was established by religion to be used in their scare tactics. Modern day reports of demons are simply misinterpeted events of other paranormal activity.

Now to anwser your question. Yes spirits do have the ability to kill humans, and there is proof. First off, the Bell Witch.

  The Bell Witch is a ghost that has been said to have taken up residence in an old house in Adams Tenesse. It supposedly haunted the house from 1817 to 1821. At the time the house was owned by John Bell, his wife, and his children. A female disemboided voice was reportedly heard regularly, and it was said that the voice constantly threathened John. In January of 1819, John Bell's eldest daughter was reportedly attacked by an invisible force that ripped out her hair and slapped her face. On Agust 12, 1821, John Bell's body was found on the floor of his study, his family claimed to have heard the witch bragging about how she killed him. Later, at Johns funeral, Laughing could be heard. The Bell Witch came back in 1828 to attack John's son, and again in 1935 to terrorize the house occupants. some say that she still haunts the house to this day.

   Another report of a homicide caused by a spirit is the famous Amityville Horror. Which is a tale about how evil spirits in a house in Amityville, Long island new york caused a teen aged boy to murder his family members. However, there is a substantial amount of evidence that practically poves that the horror was an elabreate hoax.

  Finally, in 1962 a woman baught a house in colorado despite the fact that is was supposedly haunted. She claimed that she did not belive in ghosts. Several days after she moved in, she was found dead in a puddle of human blood. The blood was not hers, and  it is still unknown who's it is.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:55 AM

You are funny Mr spaceman, you believe in ghost but not on demons.  lol


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Posted 22 July 2007 - 06:09 AM

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Uh...I was just wondering if Demons and ghosts could kill you, and if anybody has any information please post them. Also if you know anybody who died or had to be sent to the hospital because of them, tell me all about it too.
Anyways, post your opinions.


In my opinion due to my experiences only, human spirits will not and have no desire to harm you. Poltergiests can mess with you and move things etc but have never really injured anyone that I know of anyway. As far as Demonics, YES they can injure you. I had to go to ER 3 times by being tossed across a floor, and one time it was 10 feet, and was sort of airborne. I tore my rotator cuff and broke my cheek bone. But things are much less violent now. The only upside is, IT has never scared me to the point of scaring me to death. They tend to have a great deal of power, and very very intelligent, but they dont show themselves because they are actually non human entities,  never lived and never died. I have never known anything thats been killed by any kind of entity. Why do you ask? JN



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Posted 22 July 2007 - 06:25 AM

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If i'm a ghost and will scare a person with heart ailment, they are dead for sure.
As for demons, not all will follow you.
When i go back to the place where i was possessed, that bloody thing still there
and trying to possess me again. I think some of them are territorial and won't move.


That is true, as they can be attached to a house, or land, not necessarily the person such as Amityville for example, but that place was infested and one followed..That is one of their main agendas, to "try" and possess, but as long as we have "free will" it cannot and will not happen...JN--- mad.gif



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Posted 22 July 2007 - 06:34 AM

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Okay first of all, there is no such thing as demons. The whole concept of demonic spirits was established by religion to be used in their scare tactics. Modern day reports of demons are simply misinterpeted events of other paranormal activity.

Now to anwser your question. Yes spirits do have the ability to kill humans, and there is proof. First off, the Bell Witch.

  The Bell Witch is a ghost that has been said to have taken up residence in an old house in Adams Tenesse. It supposedly haunted the house from 1817 to 1821. At the time the house was owned by John Bell, his wife, and his children. A female disemboided voice was reportedly heard regularly, and it was said that the voice constantly threathened John. In January of 1819, John Bell's eldest daughter was reportedly attacked by an invisible force that ripped out her hair and slapped her face. On Agust 12, 1821, John Bell's body was found on the floor of his study, his family claimed to have heard the witch bragging about how she killed him. Later, at Johns funeral, Laughing could be heard. The Bell Witch came back in 1828 to attack John's son, and again in 1935 to terrorize the house occupants. some say that she still haunts the house to this day.

   Another report of a homicide caused by a spirit is the famous Amityville Horror. Which is a tale about how evil spirits in a house in Amityville, Long island new york caused a teen aged boy to murder his family members. However, there is a substantial amount of evidence that practically poves that the horror was an elabreate hoax.

  Finally, in 1962 a woman baught a house in colorado despite the fact that is was supposedly haunted. She claimed that she did not belive in ghosts. Several days after she moved in, she was found dead in a puddle of human blood. The blood was not hers, and  it is still unknown who's it is.


Sorry I totally disagree, the Amity was NO hoax by a long shot. Demonics are all over the place and truly has nothing to do with any particular religion. I mean Priests, Pastors, Ministers, Rabbis and Demonolgists all have the ability and experience to cast them out. As far as the woman in Colorado, that very well could have been an intruder, and nothing to do with the paranormal. I guess I dont understand why a human spirit can kill anyone, I have never ever heard of that or a story related that was credible. Lastly demonics are the violent evil ones, here to instill fear, evil and to terrorize humans, that is what they do. They can chew you up and spit you out quicker than you know what is even happening...JN- wacko.gif



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Posted 22 July 2007 - 06:40 AM

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But how can a ghost attack you?  unsure.gif


A Human Ghost as they are called have no agenda to harm anyone. A Poltergiest has the capabilites of moving things around, scaring people, and will trip you on occasions. If they are messed with, they can become malevolant and get very nasty, due to the fact they are grounded spirits, and many times are angry because of the manner of death, or refuse they are dead. They are no day at the beach trust me, but they have a great deal of anger so with that said, professionals must come in to send them forward, and accept their death. JN



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Posted 22 July 2007 - 06:45 AM

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You are funny Mr spaceman, you believe in ghost but not on demons.  lol



LOL I know ghosts kill people but demons dont exist..WOW.. wacko.gif



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Posted 22 July 2007 - 01:22 PM

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Okay first of all, there is no such thing as demons. The whole concept of demonic spirits was established by religion to be used in their scare tactics. Modern day reports of demons are simply misinterpeted events of other paranormal activity.

Now to anwser your question. Yes spirits do have the ability to kill humans, and there is proof. First off, the Bell Witch.

  The Bell Witch is a ghost that has been said to have taken up residence in an old house in Adams Tenesse. It supposedly haunted the house from 1817 to 1821. At the time the house was owned by John Bell, his wife, and his children. A female disemboided voice was reportedly heard regularly, and it was said that the voice constantly threathened John. In January of 1819, John Bell's eldest daughter was reportedly attacked by an invisible force that ripped out her hair and slapped her face. On Agust 12, 1821, John Bell's body was found on the floor of his study, his family claimed to have heard the witch bragging about how she killed him. Later, at Johns funeral, Laughing could be heard. The Bell Witch came back in 1828 to attack John's son, and again in 1935 to terrorize the house occupants. some say that she still haunts the house to this day.

   Another report of a homicide caused by a spirit is the famous Amityville Horror. Which is a tale about how evil spirits in a house in Amityville, Long island new york caused a teen aged boy to murder his family members. However, there is a substantial amount of evidence that practically poves that the horror was an elabreate hoax.

  Finally, in 1962 a woman baught a house in colorado despite the fact that is was supposedly haunted. She claimed that she did not belive in ghosts. Several days after she moved in, she was found dead in a puddle of human blood. The blood was not hers, and  it is still unknown who's it is.

Just to add to that, No. 50 Berkley Square in London. That had reported people dying of fright in one particular room.


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Posted 22 July 2007 - 02:33 PM

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Okay first of all, there is no such thing as demons. The whole concept of demonic spirits was established by religion to be used in their scare tactics. Modern day reports of demons are simply misinterpeted events of other paranormal activity.

Now to anwser your question. Yes spirits do have the ability to kill humans, and there is proof. First off, the Bell Witch.

  The Bell Witch is a ghost that has been said to have taken up residence in an old house in Adams Tenesse. It supposedly haunted the house from 1817 to 1821. At the time the house was owned by John Bell, his wife, and his children. A female disemboided voice was reportedly heard regularly, and it was said that the voice constantly threathened John. In January of 1819, John Bell's eldest daughter was reportedly attacked by an invisible force that ripped out her hair and slapped her face. On Agust 12, 1821, John Bell's body was found on the floor of his study, his family claimed to have heard the witch bragging about how she killed him. Later, at Johns funeral, Laughing could be heard. The Bell Witch came back in 1828 to attack John's son, and again in 1935 to terrorize the house occupants. some say that she still haunts the house to this day.

   Another report of a homicide caused by a spirit is the famous Amityville Horror. Which is a tale about how evil spirits in a house in Amityville, Long island new york caused a teen aged boy to murder his family members. However, there is a substantial amount of evidence that practically poves that the horror was an elabreate hoax.

  Finally, in 1962 a woman baught a house in colorado despite the fact that is was supposedly haunted. She claimed that she did not belive in ghosts. Several days after she moved in, she was found dead in a puddle of human blood. The blood was not hers, and  it is still unknown who's it is.


as for demons i happen to agree . the bell witch on the other hand i note the fact you use the words reportedly .apparently. claimed to . maybe his own killed him and they claimed it was spmeone else as a cover up.. the use of all these words shows there isnt enough evidence to conclude  the bell witch was nothing more than a story .

the woman in colarado could have been a homicide again there is no proof...

I'm gonna tell you soemthing which happened to me the other the day after reading these boards for a couple of hours .

Im a young female 27 with three kids  no paranormal activity occurs in my house at all ever it doesnt need to . i am open to spirits and can communicate with them at times but i dont iuse this for anything else ie proffesionally.. but i have never had any negativity from them whatsoever .
however the other night after reading the boards and all about demons bla bla bla i was lay in bed and  trying to go to sleep an image kept poopping into my head and if anyone knows about mediumship they will know that this is how spirits communicate through thought . so all of a sudden im getting flashes of things that frankly werent very nice  so i m thinkin oh maybe ive invited these in . geez what if it is true what if they do exist and now i have opened myself up too them . then i THOUGHT oh my god i have let those people on the boards influence me into thinking of demons and  with that these thoughts come from subconcious not any where else . i got up made myself a cuppa TOLD MYSEF TO STOP BEING SO SILLY AND  THE FLASHES DISSAPEAED SIMPLE AS THAT ..   IT SHOWS HOW EASILLY ONE CAN BE TURNED TO THINKING THEY EXIST AND THEN ONCE YOU THINK THEY DO THE THOUGHTS OF THEM STArT COMING THE FEAR INSIDE BUILDS AND EVENTUALLY THIS WILL TAKE CONTROL OF YOU (THE FEAR NOT THE DEMON) I STILL THINK ITS all subjective reality and until anyone who thinks it isnt can prove it to me i dont believe it and never will..

now if this can happen to me (who has neve rhad any bad experiences whatsoever regarding spirits) . after reading these boards for a while lets take a moment to consider the people who come here with questions like this such as miss pirate . She admits herself this question comes because she just watched a film. Yet now  in her mind what she saw in that film can and does happen so now shes even more scared now becasue of the answers she has recieved here now you may all disagree but i as an adult feel i have a responsibility when it comes to posting to children under 18 . had we all answered her with the line its just a film dont believe what you see her thoughts may then have been oh its all a load of rubbish and she could have gone away  believing this. maybe  now however miss pirates going to bed at night wondering if demons are gonna come in and kill her in her bed.  dang thats gotta have some psycological impact hasnt it ?

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 03:25 PM

There is absolutely no evidence of anyone, anywhere being killed by a ghost.
Not one single shred.




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Posted 22 July 2007 - 03:35 PM

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however the other night after reading the boards and all about demons bla bla bla i was lay in bed and  trying to go to sleep an image kept popping into my head and if anyone knows about mediumship they will know that this is how spirits communicate through thought . so all of a sudden im getting flashes of things that frankly werent very nice  so i m thinking oh maybe ive invited these in . geez what if it is true what if they do exist and now i have opened myself up too them . then i THOUGHT oh my god i have let those people on the boards influence me into thinking of demons and  with that these thoughts come from subconcious not any where else . i got up made myself a cup...and TOLD MYSELF TO STOP BEING SO SILLY AND  THE FLASHES DISSAPEARED SIMPLE AS THAT ..   IT SHOWS HOW EASILLY ONE CAN BE TURNED TO THINKING THEY EXIST AND THEN ONCE YOU THINK THEY DO THE THOUGHTS OF THEM START COMING THE FEAR INSIDE BUILDS AND EVENTUALLY THIS WILL TAKE CONTROL OF YOU (THE FEAR NOT THE DEMON) I STILL THINK IT'S all subjective reality and until anyone who thinks it isnt can prove it to me i dont believe it and never will..
so your mind started broadcasting fear...THEN you started getting the flashes...right? .....B





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Posted 22 July 2007 - 03:40 PM

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so your mind started broadcasting fear...THEN you started getting the flashes...right? .....B
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yes it seemed once i allowed myself to fear it the flashes came but as soon as i told myself it was my imagination and got rid of the slight bit of fear i had allowed to creep in they dissapeared so it was nothing paranormal just my subconcious mind throwing things up from  what i had been reading is all, the fear came when i gave way to the possibility that they were more than just imagination . which in turn made the flashes stronger ...





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