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Was it a Big Foot or a Skinwalker? (Please Read )


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#1    Everything Burns

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Posted 13 July 2005 - 01:27 AM

OK here is my story. I did not see anything but i had heard something.
    Sometime in June of last year, Me, My Mom, My Uncle, and My Uncles girlfriend Nora all went up to Payson, Arizona to camp out for a while. When we had go there we called My Uncle to find out were he wanted to meet us, since he left before us we didn't know where to meet him. We went to a little place on a hill i think it was a fishing store cause there was a lake behind it. Anyway, we made are way back to the camp site, but on the way my Uncle had to stop and cut up some wood. When we got there his tent trailer set up already. We all just hug out by the fire and talked for a while.
    I got bored and asked Nora if she wanted to go for a walk or something. She said yeah but it was getting dark. We went anyway. We went down the first trial which was in front of our campsite it wasn't to scary just a straight path. When we were on the way back from the walk i asked her if she wanted to go on the other trial behind the campsite she said yes. We had gotten back to my Uncle and my Mom and told then we were going to go on the other trial. We headed down the trial. It was almost dark. We walked halfway and she asked me if we should go back because it was getting dark... I said no... So we kept going. We kept walking until we couldn't see the sun anymore and were going up a hill.Thats we started to hear noises. First i though i heard a band playing in the distance and then i though ' Were in the middle of the woods, theres no band out here ' So i ignored it and kept walking. Then she stops and looks at me and i say ' What ' and she says ' Did you hear that ' and i said ' No what ' and she goes ' That sound it sounded like a wild animal ' She said it was probably nothing so we kept going and thats when i heard it. It sounded like a wolf... or something. I looked at her and she looked at me and i said ' What was that ' and she said ' I don't know but lets turn around '. We walked...The fast as we could back to the site... We then started to heard someone yelling. As we got closer... It turns out it was only my Mom yelling for us cause it was getting dark.
       Once we got back we told them about what we had heard my Uncle didn't believe us but my Mom did.
       We sat around the camp fire until it was completly dark until it was at least 12am, then we went to bed. About 4 or 5 in the morning i was awaken by the sound of sticks being crushed...As if they were being stepped on. I tryed to ignore it and go back to sleep but just when i tryed i heard a few wolfs howl... then a few more. Soon enough it sounded like there was a whole back of wolves howling. I was scared to death. The sounds from the wolves had stoped when i heard a shriek and really loud screaming sound. It sounded like a woman being killed...It faded after about 4 seconds. I was about to wake my Mom up when she says ' Tera did you hear that' and i said ' Yes '. We started to talk about what it might been when my Uncle said ' Cut it out you two ' and my Mom was trying to tell him that we really did heat something...... But he didn't believe us. When we had woke up awhile after that we were asking if they had heard anything. They didn't.
    A few days after we went home my Mom told me that her friend said that it could have been a skinwalker. She said that they are evil spirits that take a form of an animal..... and are usually out to kill someone. Another friend told her that he had come to think about it and a few years ago a laddie was murdered up there on the Mogollon Rim and it could have been her living that night over again. He said she was killed on Memorial Day, and come to think about it we were on the Rim and it was Memorial day........
   ....... My Mom always though it could have been Big foot. but after she remembered what the sound sounded like she said it was probably something evil. But to this day it is still unknown to what it was. Was it a Big Foot, Skinwalker.........

P.S. Im sorry its so long!!!!!!! But i had to find a place for everything. This story is true by all means!!!!!! Below are two pics that were taken.. one by my Uncle and the other by Nora........ Now you now why my screenname is skinwalkers_haunted_woods.
                      Tera

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Edited by Skinwalkers_Haunted_Woods101, 13 July 2005 - 01:41 AM.


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Posted 13 July 2005 - 01:37 AM

I don't have time to read it all right now (at work)... but paragraphs would make it much much easier to understand....


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Posted 13 July 2005 - 01:43 AM

Is that good enough for paragraphs?? I tryed my best. Thanks for wanting to read it im sorry its long but its worth it.

Tera

Edited by Skinwalkers_Haunted_Woods101, 13 July 2005 - 01:46 AM.


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Posted 14 July 2005 - 06:18 AM

Deffinately not a Bigfoot, but this whole 'Skinwalker' thing sounds like an old ghost story they told you to scare you - particularly because of the addition of  the whole...

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He said she was killed on Memorial Day, and come to think about it we were on the Rim and it was Memorial day


...thing. It just seems like he was trying to scare you there.
Other people here may have some idea of what it is, though.


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Posted 14 July 2005 - 06:43 AM

You were in the woods, animals make weird sounds, and you were scared, but all this together and i would have to say, it was either; a mad Bigfoot- you were in its territory, or just a wolf pack out hunting for dinner!

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 01:56 PM

I agree with Isis.  Some animals can give an extremely human screech. I think it was that mixed with your fear.


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Posted 28 September 2005 - 04:37 PM

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Deffinately not a Bigfoot, but this whole 'Skinwalker' thing sounds like an old ghost story they told you to scare you - particularly because of the addition of  the whole...
...thing. It just seems like he was trying to scare you there.
Other people here may have some idea of what it is, though.


You dont think it was a big foot? So you think it was a ghost. Isnt that the same as a skinwalker?
   Tera


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Posted 28 September 2005 - 04:39 PM

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You were in the woods, animals make weird sounds, and you were scared, but all this together and i would have to say, it was either; a mad Bigfoot- you were in its territory, or just a wolf pack out hunting for dinner!


No it wasnt any of that im sure. If you heard it you would understand. I know for a fact it sounded like it was flying over us. Like it could have been a werid flying animal or something.
   Tera



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Posted 28 September 2005 - 04:41 PM

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I agree with Isis.  Some animals can give an extremely human screech. I think it was that mixed with your fear.


I know that the first sound was a pack of wolves but the second noise wasent anything normal. I cant explain how it sounded. It was not a animal and it wasent my imangination. I was something. I know you dont believe me but no one does and i really dont care. I know what i heard.
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 12:27 AM

Hmmm. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but without anyone seeing anything, could have been alot of legit things that go bump in the night.  Need some proof..pic, eyewitness, footprint...something.. dontgetit.gif


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Posted 29 September 2005 - 12:58 AM

I think it WAS a Skinwalker.  As far as proof, I'm not sure you would ever find it, from what I've learned about them.


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Posted 01 October 2005 - 12:28 AM

You said that the second sound sounded like a woman being killed. That is like the sound a bobcat makes, or at least one that is mixed with a siamese house cat. The sound of something flying over you may have been the wind in the trees.


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Posted 13 October 2005 - 08:05 PM

Hi Tera,

I'm curious as to what you meant by hearing a "band" out there.  Can you be a little more descriptive? What precisely did you hear?

There are all sorts of opinions on what skinwalkers are, even on the reservation.  Some Navajo consider them demons, others ghosts, or possessed people.  On the same hand, a large portion of the Navajo tribe seem to have never seen one for themselves so we're talking  pretty much what would be second hand gossip.   Add to it that skinwalkers are taboo for open discussion and you have a situation where the people who have seen one are hesitant to talk in any detail about the experience outside of their own family unit.  The person who told you that skinwalkers were "evil spirits that take the form of animals" could've thought that they were correct or have been trying to spook you out.  In actuality, skinwalkers are human beings, according to those who have had numerous close up experiences with them.  

Here's a carving done by a Navajo artist, Lawrence Jacquez, that depicts a skinwalker:

Lawrence Jacquez's Skinwalker

Although they are human and quite real, they are still very dangerous and have a tendency to be mischievious.   Could it have been possible that you and your family ran into a skinwalker and its pack?  Possibly...it wouldn't be the first time that somebody has been "treated" to this kind of thing.  Odd way to look at it, but considering how rare the occurences are, it is kind of a treat.  Do try to remember what the "band" sounded like because that would be really very helpful (and interesting!).  I'll explain why afterwards.


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Posted 13 October 2005 - 08:16 PM

BIGFOOT EXISTS BUT NO ONE BELIVES ME

i really think it was a pack of wolfs, or some wild animals, its the woods...you never know...

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 08:31 PM

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BIGFOOT EXISTS BUT NO ONE BELIVES ME

i really think it was a pack of wolfs, or some wild animals, its the woods...you never know...


Actually, there is a huge amount of oral history and current history  in regards to skinwalkers.  Not only is the Navajo tribe aware of them but all of the surrounding tribes as well including the Hopi, Zuni, Ute, Acoma and so on.  Neighboring tribes tend to say "don't go driving on the navajo rez at night" because of skinwalkers.  

However, it is more likely that it was a pack of wolves. If skinwalkers were an animal, they'd probably be considered an endangered species at this time.  There are fewer and fewer sightings of them over the years.  The most recent confirmed sighting that I am aware of happened about 3 years ago. At the same time, Tera's mention of a "band" being heard at dusk is very interesting and I'd like to hear more specifics on that one.









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