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#1    Levi

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:04 AM

Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core,
Think of it as a tree, the actual tree trunk as the "true" religion and then all the brances leading off from the tree are different religions that all have been changed and developed from the original but still hold the main essence of that links them

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:36 AM

I think religion is mans attempt to speak about the unspeakable, but it just  doesn't do a very good job. I think it stared out controlling the masses , First  Religion  has to get you to lose faith in yourself, get you to believe that you need something that you yourself cannot find or fulfill. Second religion has tio get you to believe it has the answers  and you don't. Third and this is very important  Religion has to get you to except there "ANSWERS" as the "ONLY "answers.  Where would religion be if people didn't "need" it, I say out of buisness, I think as a whole we need to let go of Religion. Namaste Sheri Berri




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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:40 AM

Controlling the masses....Have you read up on the Planet X - Sumerian story of religion??

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:01 AM

No Sumerian sounds familiart to me thru the Seth books Waht are these books you talk of???




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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:14 AM

Well Sitchin's series of books cover it, but just searching for websites on that subject is what I usually do

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:23 AM

Thanks, I have never heard of these.




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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:02 PM

I don't believe in one god levi.....I don't follow one almighty, I also don't believe in Satan, or the bible......My faith/beliefs don't look anything like other religions at all, they have nothing in common.....I sometimes would say they aren't in the same forest never mind part of the same tree grin2.gif

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:14 PM

Religion did start out the same all over the world then it was corupted by the will of selfish men who saw it as a way to control the way people lived their lives.  This gave a few people the power over many.  Which is never good.

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:23 PM

Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the self same God - that of the Patriarch Abraham.

Which I suppose is why they get on so well with one another......


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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:16 PM

Yes, getting rid of organized religious groups is the only way to be rid of the conflict they cause. Religion is really a abnormal cult that is detrimental to society. It has only a little to do with the truth about God and is mostly concerned with ensuring it's own survival.
If all we need to know is the ten comandments, then what do we need with a church?


It is time to seek a new way to God. And that should be personal and not public.


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Posted 18 July 2005 - 07:56 PM

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Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core,

There are many different religions, all are different in one way or another.  Some don't even faintly resemble one another.

Monotheism

Christianity/Catholicism
Islam
Judaism
Gnosticism (sp)
Satanism
Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit)
Deism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witness

Polytheism

Buddhism
Hinduism
Greek Mythology
Roman Mythology
Egyptian Mythology
Most Tribal African Religions
Shintoism
Taoism

Naturalism

Atheism
Marxism/Leninism
Agnosticism
Scientism
Postmodernism
Secular Humanism
Freudian Psychology
Atheistic Evolution
Socialism
Secularism
Existentialism
Humanism
Hedonism
Nihilism



Basically we can divide the different world views into three:
Naturalism- The world as we see it
Transcendentalism- The world as we want it
Theism- The world from God's hand




Naturalism
Key beliefs
1) There is/are no God(s).
2) The universe is "self created" or has always existed.
3) Each person is a biological "machine".
Key advantages
1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow.
2) Be what you want; determine your own meaning and purpose.
3) Solve it yourself; all problems have materialistic solutions.


Transcendentalism
Key beliefs
1) Everything is "god".
2) The universe is divine and has always existed.
3) Each person is part of the divine universe.
Key advantages
1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow.
2) Be what you want; look within to determine your own meaning and purpose.
3) Solve it yourself; all problems have 'spiritual' solutions.


Theism
Key beliefs
1) A personal God exists.
2) The universe was created by God.
3) Each person is created in the image and likeness of God.
Key Advantages
1) Do what God wants; follow God's will and character.
2) Be what God wants; God has given you meaning and purpose.
3) Let God solve it; all problems have ultimate solutions







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Posted 18 July 2005 - 11:11 PM



Could I add DEISM  ????

Edited by Kismit, 20 July 2005 - 02:56 AM.




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Posted 19 July 2005 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE(Levi @ Jul 18 2005, 05:04 AM)
Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core,
Think of it as a tree, the actual tree trunk as the "true" religion and then all the brances leading off from the tree are different religions that all have been changed and developed from the original but still hold the main essence of that links them

Just my view, anyone else agree or disagree...post here!
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I think you have put it in a nutshell Levi. I agree with you. Somewhere in the distant past there was a Truth, but the further we have moved from the beginning the more clouded this truth has become. Unfortunately we have only the shadow of that truth and it is much more convenient to simply claim that it is all BS.

In fact the ancient hebrews have kept their truth for roughly 6000 years without much variation. The Ancient Indians (Hindu) have a longer history of their truth but it is broken up into a kaliedascope of lesser disciplines either moving away or toward the same theme. The Christian truth comes directly out of the Hebrew belief. Islam again is more of the same it runs parallel to Judae/Christianity but lacks a direct connection.

The many others Aztec/Inca/Egyptian are very much the same just names have been changed and this on careful study does mirror the Hindu concept. So maybe it might be safe to assume there are Three major thrusts in religious belief,

The Judae/Christian

The Hindu/Aztec/Inca/Egyptian of which the various Eastern religions seem to have their roots, even the greco/roman beliefs are simalar to the old Egyptian beliefs and out of these the other lesser known “pagan” beliefs seem to echo the same stuff.

then the odd one in the pack is Islam

Then again this is only my uneducated assumption



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Posted 19 July 2005 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE(Sheri berri @ Jul 18 2005, 07:11 PM)
QUOTE(eveningsky339 @ Jul 18 2005, 12:56 PM)
QUOTE
Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core,

There are many different religions, all are different in one way or another.  Some don't even faintly resemble one another.

Monotheism

Christianity/Catholicism
Islam
Judaism
Gnosticism (sp)
Satanism
Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit)
Deism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witness

Polytheism

Buddhism
Hinduism
Greek Mythology
Roman Mythology
Egyptian Mythology
Most Tribal African Religions
Shintoism
Taoism

Naturalism

Atheism
Marxism/Leninism
Agnosticism
Scientism
Postmodernism
Secular Humanism
Freudian Psychology
Atheistic Evolution
Socialism
Secularism
Existentialism
Humanism
Hedonism
Nihilism



Basically we can divide the different world views into three:
Naturalism- The world as we see it
Transcendentalism- The world as we want it
Theism- The world from God's hand




Naturalism
Key beliefs
1) There is/are no God(s).
2) The universe is "self created" or has always existed.
3) Each person is a biological "machine".
Key advantages
1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow.
2) Be what you want; determine your own meaning and purpose.
3) Solve it yourself; all problems have materialistic solutions.


Transcendentalism
Key beliefs
1) Everything is "god".
2) The universe is divine and has always existed.
3) Each person is part of the divine universe.
Key advantages
1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow.
2) Be what you want; look within to determine your own meaning and purpose.
3) Solve it yourself; all problems have 'spiritual' solutions.


Theism
Key beliefs
1) A personal God exists.
2) The universe was created by God.
3) Each person is created in the image and likeness of God.
Key Advantages
1) Do what God wants; follow God's will and character.
2) Be what God wants; God has given you meaning and purpose.
3) Let God solve it; all problems have ultimate solutions

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Could I add DEISM  ????

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I think I added that under the Monotheism section.

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Monotheism
Christianity/Catholicism
Islam
Judaism
Gnosticism
Satanism
Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit)
Deism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witness

Yeah it's there.  If I have excluded anything please tell me and I will add them.  original.gif


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Posted 19 July 2005 - 11:03 PM

QUOTE(Levi @ Jul 18 2005, 03:04 AM)
Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core,
Think of it as a tree, the actual tree trunk as the "true" religion and then all the brances leading off from the tree are different religions that all have been changed and developed from the original but still hold the main essence of that links them

Just my view, anyone else agree or disagree...post here!
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Wrong. Satanism doesn't have a god, or faith, or any entity. So, all religion doesn't have the same concept. There are many other examples. And there is no "true" religion, the term is an oxymoron, except when it involves Satanism. That's the only true religion.

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