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#316    Vallheru

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 03:53 PM

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We also forgot to send to India, Cyprus, Nigeria where the english also massacred people for all those years.

For that, we also apologise



yeah we have  a shady past , how far back do u go though.


i mean its not as if greece was always the pussy cat it is now.....

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That is exactly the point. We have been around longer than every other nation (by far if I may say) and have done unimaginable slaughtering. May I remind you that we were the longest European empire-the Byzantine- which rigned in terror for over a thousand years. We were also under the turks for 400 years. I just want to point out that we have learned our lessons both ways and that for us what happening now is just a repeat of history. Why not benefit from it?


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Posted 26 July 2005 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE(Vallheru @ Jul 26 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(wunarmdscissor @ Jul 26 2005, 03:47 PM)
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We also forgot to send to India, Cyprus, Nigeria where the english also massacred people for all those years.

For that, we also apologise



yeah we have  a shady past , how far back do u go though.


i mean its not as if greece was always the pussy cat it is now.....

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That is exactly the point. We have been around longer than every other nation (by far if I may say) and have done unimaginable slaughtering. May I remind you that we were the longest European empire-the Byzantine- which rigned in terror for over a thousand years. We were also under the turks for 400 years. I just want to point out that we have learned our lessons both ways and that for us what happening now is just a repeat of history. Why not benefit from it?

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very good point, empires rise and fall, just as the USA will in another 50~100 years


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Posted 26 July 2005 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(I am me @ Jul 26 2005, 03:54 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ Jul 26 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(wunarmdscissor @ Jul 26 2005, 03:47 PM)
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We also forgot to send to India, Cyprus, Nigeria where the english also massacred people for all those years.

For that, we also apologise



yeah we have  a shady past , how far back do u go though.


i mean its not as if greece was always the pussy cat it is now.....

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That is exactly the point. We have been around longer than every other nation (by far if I may say) and have done unimaginable slaughtering. May I remind you that we were the longest European empire-the Byzantine- which rigned in terror for over a thousand years. We were also under the turks for 400 years. I just want to point out that we have learned our lessons both ways and that for us what happening now is just a repeat of history. Why not benefit from it?

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very good point, empires rise and fall, just as the USA will in another 50~100 years

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Still, it is of no one's interest for the U.s. to crumble. Who is going to replace it? China? God help us. Russia? God help us times 2.

I'd prefer the rise of another super-power than the fall of the single one. Balance is always better.

But a distinction: we who chat here, do not have the power to cahnge the world (unless one of you american friends becomes the president one of these days).

But, we can also stop being blind.

Signing off, thanks for some good arguments.


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Posted 26 July 2005 - 05:30 PM

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Many of the terrorists are having a hay day killing Americans in Iraq


dont forget the proportionally larger amount of innocent iraqis being blown up on a daily basis, just for getting on with their lives.

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Oh I don't, I am 100% against this war.  There are many Iraqi "terrorists" who are fending off the invading American armies.  If there is any honor in this war, it goes to those soldiers fighting to defend their homes and families.

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There will never be any honor in attacking people from behind, it is the mark of a coward.  Where were all these warriors when the war was being faught.  At home hiding behind their couch.  Throwing grenades through open windows when no one is looking is not honorable.  These guys are not fighting to defend their home because nobody in America would want them.  They are fighting to get rid of American presence so they can be the next Sadam.  If the states leaves then some other A-hole will fill the void.  And the backward people of that nation will make sure it happens.

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So agree.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation"

Henry David Thoreau...

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 05:38 PM

Wow, you guys have been having some good arguments.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation"

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 05:41 PM

QUOTE(wunarmdscissor @ Jul 25 2005, 01:06 PM)
babs can you not understand that by definition nuclear weapons are ultimatley self-depricating.

whats the point in poisoning the very planet your fighting to be apart of ?? it makes no sense , kill your enemy only for your own weapon to be the weapon that destroys yourself?

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I agree, but what can you do? hmm.gif  You have to play the game. If we don't participate, the world will go on without us. It's better to be a part of this world than to lay back and do nothing... or to try and change the world so drastically that there isn't 'a snowball's chance in hell' of it going that way.

Edited by Babs, 26 July 2005 - 10:28 PM.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation"

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 07:24 PM

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Edited by morpheas, 26 July 2005 - 07:51 PM.

be true to yourself first, then you can be true with others.

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 07:56 PM

I hear that, morpheas! yes.gif

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 08:14 PM

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be true to yourself first, then you can be true with others.

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 08:14 PM

how brave...


and what innocents get slaughtered


unfortunatley i have a conscience


But you can still go there and fight for what you believe in, when the current government is neutral.
You say you have a conscience? Why then are you sending other people to do the dirty work?

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