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#1    Gmac1000

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 07:21 AM

I have been studying the case of Billy Meier and his claims to be in contact by Beings from another planet, and have to say that It has not only intrigued me but actually raised my eyebrow to the actual logic of this case, and I studied it with great partialness and still have yet to find an absolute flaw or contradiction to this claim unlike many other beliefs and religions.   I haven't been on UM for a while due to an irritation of closed minded people that just like to argue for the sake of typing regarding any proof brought forth and sticking to their own egotistical thoughts disregarding any true opinions that are discussed, however I did forget about those other people who are extremely Intelligent and whose opinion I really valued at UM and would love it if they would take the time read the link listed below and the case of Billy Meier and tell me your thoughts on this, is this some fantasy created in the mind of a strange one armed farmer from Switzerland, or a genuine encounter of an extreme spiritual and intelligent kind (next to us thats not hard to beat, watch out for monkeys taken our jobs) A race that has surly got it all together and have the perfect solution to a disease, hatred, jealous free world to name a few.
   I would like you true open minded people to take some thought into this claim and then I would love to hear your opinions on this, if you would like to know more information on this matter just let me know.
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Edited by Gmac1000, 19 July 2005 - 07:32 AM.


#2    Gmac1000

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 07:50 AM

Samjese (One of the Main Plajaren contacts to Billy, with a rank of demi-jshjrsh pronounced ish-rish meaning demi-queen of wisdom or a demi-goddess which was often refered to in Greek Mythology in early Earth times) her veiws on humans first views on this claim and why it's important to hold back on telling us just yet.
  and how to make us a better race.
    What did our extraterrestrial friends say about the topic of peace meditation?

136th Contact conversation, Tuesday, October 14, 1980, 11:41 p.m.

Billy: I know, and thatís probably how itíll stay because the people on Earth are not likely to alter their ways so quickly and accept the truth that changes could still be invoked, for the better, I mean.

Semjase: While you are not permitted to speak about it at this point so as to endanger the success, it is still advisable that great efforts be made to change various future incidents for the positive, although they seem to be inevitable now. Toward the latter part of 1983 or spring of 1984, we are planning to introduce an effective peace meditation to benefit Earth, its inhabitants, and events that will occur there. Included in this effort will be everyone on Erra and many members from our federation, whose total will comprise more than 3.5 billion humans. This will produce an extremely powerful energy force through which the terrestrials and their actions, hence their occurrences, should be influenced and political confusion resolved. These efforts will also lead to freeing Russia and other countries from their current dictatorship status. The procedures have been instituted and mandated by the High Council, who have found a permissible method to intervene using a particular cosmic clause that could be used to influence terrestrial affairs. As part of the result brought about by these peace efforts, the inhumane wall will fall, which currently divides Germany into two separate countries, thus the two sectors will be reunited into one. Every group member is asked to help, for the strength and initiative of each and every last one is imperative, as is the assistance of other humans on Earth who will voluntarily join you in this effort. In this regard you are only permitted to speak about the peace meditation and its purpose in the peace effort. You may not mention the issues I previously told you about and which I specifically named just now. Should you not adhere to these instructions and speak about these items, you will not only jeopardize all efforts in this direction but the anticipated successes commencing in 1987 will not occur either; they may even transform into something negative.

Billy: What a thought. Of course, I'll sit on my mouth. óButódo you actually think that the dictatorships on Earth will come to an end in the next decade, and that the wall in the DDR [German Democratic Republic] will come down?

Semjase: This is as good as certain, although World War III will still be a threat, in addition to many other forms of tragedies. Success will follow as long as we conscientiously and systematically perform the peace meditation. Beginning with 1987, many other things will change, for the positive that is. However, the first tangible and substantial successes will only become evident in 1988, and within a very brief time afterward they will begin to solidify to the point where the first major uprisings will begin in 1989 and terrestrials will experience their temporary apex in 1990. But I must state once again that you must remain silent on these matters for now.

Billy: I will do that. There is no way I am going to endanger all of these future efforts.

Semjase: Only time will tell the success rate these efforts will bring.

Billy: Slowly some hope is rising within meóand I will put all of this into the drawer of my lost memories so I don't endanger anything.

Semjase: You will be permitted to speak about everything when the events become more apparent.

Billy: By then I'll have forgotten it all. óSo it looks like as the end of the 1980s approaches, we soon can expect some rays of hope in regard to a worldwide improvement of freedom and peace. Then the world will look a bit better.

Semjase: Yes, so it will. But now I must leave. Moreover, you are tired. Good-bye.

Billy: Good, and many thanks,girl..
  
These are the main contacts of Billy.   Notice their close resemblemt to humans and to a close friend of theirs of the name of Emannuel, (also known a Jesus)http://www.billymeie...actPersons.html


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Posted 19 July 2005 - 09:43 AM

After reading through the site, I'm afraid I can't possibly believe that story is at all serious tongue.gif But, since you asked...

Long story short, I do not believe that an intelligent race would make its first and only contact on earth with a farmer in the middle of nowhere tongue.gif I find it suspect that aliens never seem to want to contact important world leaders, or famous scientists (who they should really be seeking out), and instead want to have all their meetings with uneducated nobodies.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 04:39 PM

World leaders jugdment is clouded by their ongoing persuit of more power and their minds have been closed due to their love for material things.
    Being Ignorant does not make you an "uneducated nobody" especially when that nobody is in the position to end all mankind, besides it is easier to pretend that you don't know.


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Posted 19 July 2005 - 05:07 PM

Riddle me this then Gmac:

If they are here, and they do wish to contact us, why not land, say, in Central Park, NYC?

Or Trafalger Square?

Or anywhere where there is a large number of people who could witness these events?

All 'close contacts' that I have heard of, usually involve one or two people, and a lonely area far from populated areas.  So you will forgive my rampant skepticism.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 05:18 PM

You said you had proof, all I see is an article that isn't very convincing and some photos that could be real or could be fake....forging photos is fairly easy now a days.  I agree with the others (Sera and JMPD1), not very convincing.  I know....I am a skeptic, therefore I am closed minded, no matter that I do believe in the high probability of extraterrestrial life.  I just see another pathetic attempt by some guy (Bill Miers, not you) with no self-esteem and no real life trying to impress others.  yes.gif

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 01:37 AM

Now I remember why I left this site.
   My grandfather once said that "It's too bad that the sky would have do turn black and a deep voice covering the world before people will truly believe in God"    That is a closed minded person, that will be the source of all your downfalls in the future.

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 02:24 AM

I would tend to agree with Saraphina in regards to the person(s) contacted should be on the scientific end of the spectrum.  Scientists, say from NASA or SETI, who would be more prone to look at alien contact as a blessing, rather than the typical beurocratical 'the sky is falling' point of view.

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 03:51 AM

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Now I remember why I left this site.


If your reason for leaving the site was because people would swallow such things as this, then I think you're setting your estimations of the board's intelligence a little low. The questions posed seem reasonable to me.

Where I an alien intending to make peaceful contact with earth, then I would be establishing communication with world powers, or at the very least people of suitable influence and intelligence to properly represent this planet in a diplomatic arena.

If this man's story is true, and aliens have actually contacted him, then all that really proves is that these aliens of his are stupid.

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 04:53 AM

How do you figure they are stupid and not concerned of the cosmic imbalance that we are capable of.   If you aren't open enough to consider another theory of life and the future then I wouldn't want to contact you either.



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Posted 20 July 2005 - 05:06 AM

QUOTE(Gmac1000 @ Jul 20 2005, 12:53 AM)
How do you figure they are stupid and not concerned of the cosmic imbalance that we are capable of.   If you aren't open enough to consider another theory of life and the future then I wouldn't want to contact you either.

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How would the aliens contacting SETI or NASA cause a cosmic imbalance?  Most of those folks believe in ET's and spend a lot of their time trying to make contact themselves.

People are asking you real and thoughtful questions.  Giving snippy responses and accusing people of being close-minded is not necessary for people who are being respectful.

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 05:06 AM

Well that's the thing there....I believe aliens exist. In fact, as a scientist, I believe that it's statistically impossible for them not to exist. However, I also believe it's impossible for them to ever find this planet, or make contact with us.

Be that as it may though, why would an intelligent species travel across the universe to make contact with a farmer in the middle of switzerland? And have exclusive contact with him, and only him? Why not appear at the G8 summit amid a gathering of major world leaders....why not appear before the scientific community?

In other words, why not appear in such a way that their being here has a purpose? Talking to a farmer who has neither influence or reputation is a waste of time and effort. This story is either a man's attempt to sell a story (although, as Sera said, after reading through the site, I must wonder if it isn't a spoof, like the Flat Earth Society. It all seems to have its tongue thrust very firmly into its cheek), or it's the ravings of a madman. Either way, I doubt that this gentlemen has had any exclusive interveiw rights to alien visitors.


Man, I just looked at the pictures on the website...I'm now convinced that this has to be a joke.

Edited by Shadowsleet, 20 July 2005 - 05:15 AM.

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 05:45 AM

Billy Meier was debunked years ago. It was even shown that one of his "beam ships" turned out to be a trash can lid.


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Posted 20 July 2005 - 06:50 AM

'Samjese'? Sure he's not talking about Semyaza? laugh.gif Strange similarity though since it was reported that Semyaza (the Girgori angel) sent his wife to another planet (Heaven being in space) to save her from the coming disaster.....


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:54 PM

A bit of interesting information about skeptics of the Billy Meier case can be found here:

http://www.theyfly.c...tical-challenge

There is a lot to read in this website including:

Final Proof Meier's UFO Photos Genuine!

The Billy Meier 'Hoax' Exposed?

Skeptics at IIG Caught Falsifying Evidence!

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