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#1    iac_tracker

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 08:55 PM

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:17 PM

How does the crucifixion of Jesus translate into a sacrifice for everyone's sins?  From what I recall, he neither wanted to be there nor did he know what he was dying for.


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Posted 13 August 2005 - 10:24 PM

To answer your question aquatus, back in the OT, for people to "cover up" their sins, they needed a sacrifice.  There were different sacrifices for different kinds of sin, such as a meat offering for stealing and what- not.  Of course, their sins weren't quite forgiven, but rather they were covered.  When Jesus came, He became the final sacrifice for sin, so that not only normal people could talk to God(back in the OT, only priests could talk to God, and they needed to be sin- free or else they'd die on the spot), but our sins were also forgiven, not just covered.  This is just a rough stroy, and someone else can probably give you a little more detail:tu:

iac_tracker, this is a very good idea.  Let's see, God does many things in my life.  If I'm about to do something I shouldn't, I can hear a little voice say "don't," and when I follow it, I end up not getting hurt or in trouble.  Everyday I learn a new lesson, it can be a discreet lesson or a life changing one, but it's always a lesson.  Also, one of the biggest things He does is answer my prayer requests.  It may not be an immediate answering, but they all do get answered.


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Posted 13 August 2005 - 10:40 PM

Yes my prayers always get answered too It might be a while but remember  "Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whoes confidence is in him" so sometimes I have to pray for the same thing over a period of time but it always happens thumbup.gif

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE(TaintedDoughnuts @ Aug 13 2005, 10:24 PM)
To answer your question aquatus, back in the OT, for people to "cover up" their sins, they needed a sacrifice.  There were different sacrifices for different kinds of sin, such as a meat offering for stealing and what- not.  Of course, their sins weren't quite forgiven, but rather they were covered.


Did the sacrifice have to be willing?


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Posted 14 August 2005 - 05:58 AM

QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Aug 14 2005, 08:51 AM)
Did the sacrifice have to be willing?

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Does a cow have a choice in the matter?  does a sack of grain have choice in the matter?  

Jesus didn't want to die - no sane person wishes to die.  But Jesus also acknowledged it was God's will and he would do as God wished "Not my will but yours".  So it was a willing sacrifice as in Jesus had a choice and decided to follow through.

Hope that answers your question thumbsup.gif

Anyway, good thread.  Today I have been reminded of the great joy of the future as we look forward to the day that all God's creation will bow down and worship Him.  The passage at church today was Revelations 7 - when John saw a great multitude of people, so large their number couldn't be counted, all worshipping God.  When no longer will society be divided, but united under one God, one purpose, one hope, one love.    

I pray and look forward to that glorious day.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 04:44 PM

and PA, what if that uniting force is buddhism?  or what if that uniting force is logic?

will you still be happy that all of humanity came together in "one purpose", even if it means dismissal of your religion?  (would you sacrifice your version of faith for the greater "good" of humanity, or do you just expect all other belief structures to do so?)


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Posted 14 August 2005 - 04:52 PM

QUOTE(hyperactive @ Aug 14 2005, 05:44 PM)
and PA, what if that uniting force is buddhism?  or what if that uniting force is logic?

will you still be happy that all of humanity came together in "one purpose", even if it means dismissal of your religion?  (would you sacrifice your version of faith for the greater "good" of humanity, or do you just expect all other belief structures to do so?)

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What a great question, I am glad I am not the one having to answer it.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:10 PM

To answer that, my faith tells me that that will not be the case.  Our world will be united as one under the banner of GOd one day.  Faith aside, I do not think our selfish nature's will let that happen.  There will always be an egomaniac out there in some guise or other trying to advance their own purposes.

When I speak of the day we are united, I speak of heaven.  When all creation is bowing down and worshipping the wonderful creator.  It's not a physical day of which I speak, but the day of our Lord's return.

Hope that helps thumbsup.gif

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:54 PM

Hi Paranoid Android

Can I ask you, are non Christians allowed to this party?

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 11:05 PM

PA. but what if when you die (and there is life after death for this scenario) you go off to a place and discover that the unity of all energy in the universe is not what you beleived in this life?  will you still be as happy to see a unity of energies or will you be unhappy that it was not what christianity promised?


"He who knows not and knows not he knows not, he is a fool - shun him.
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He who knows and knows that he knows, he is wise - follow him. "
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 11:48 PM

PA why would you rejoice when we all bow down and "worship the Christian God??? one does not have faith one is faith !!! One does not "hope' that something will happen one just "KNOWS it will, One who has faith (and very few have acheieved such a state) don't defend their beleiefs there is no need to their beleifs stand on there own,  Why would you wish we as humans remaoin divided, different is kool but divided ? again  thats what religion encourages .  Namaste Sheri

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 11:51 PM

Faeden - the views of the non-Christian are valued here.  However, we do not wish this thread to become another "prove Christianity" thread.  It is hoped that Christians can come here and discuss their views and opinions without having to justify them as happens in every other thread.

Hyper - if I am wrong, I doubt I'd care.

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Aug 15 2005, 12:51 AM)
Faeden - the views of the non-Christian are valued here.  However, we do not wish this thread to become another "prove Christianity" thread.  It is hoped that Christians can come here and discuss their views and opinions without having to justify them as happens in every other thread.

Hyper - if I am wrong, I doubt I'd care.

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I only asked a question based on the threads subject. If you cant answer it that is fine, just thought id ask.

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 01:37 AM

Everybody is welcome here skeptics, believers, christians, and even athiests but it is not to ask questions. It is share your religous expieriences and spread the joy of the Lord. wink2.gif

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