[muddyfrog]

Well I have to say insight. that your example does not prove what you wanted it to. What they are saying is the number has meaning... I'm guesing they are saying the number is a message or a sign. (right?) And 9/11 only had meaning after it happened. So that is the only time that they could get a sign (mabey to remember the day if we are talking about 9/11?)

I'm not saying that is what I think though. I just didn't like that example. As it can be used for both sides
I know what you mean about patterns.
Everyone go out and look for 12:34. You'll notice it more and more.
What does 12:34 mean???

hehe

***I am not trying to be mean***


EDIT: I'll look into 11:11. I am not a blind skeptic.

This post has been edited by muddyfrog: 06 September 2005 - 07:10 AM

[Kismit]

I've said it before and I will say it again, I do not beleieve that 11:11 is an angelic message, but it sure as heck happens an awful lot somedays.

[Lialilith]

Unfortuently I don't think you would really hear anything I had to share about 11:11, your mind is already made up. and I have no intention of arguing
[/i]
Oh I'm always willing to hear. But I'm not easily convinced. I'll listen to your case. I'll listen to every bit of it. But you have to present it first.

So, that's "you're" website? So, uh, where is the part about 11:11 on it?

Ok firstly, my fault wrong webpage, the webpage that we have on 11:11 is limited at the moment and is mostly run by John my husband but feel free to check it out.
My 11:11 Webpage

Firstly I have no "case" to speak of or a need to "convince" you of anything. What I can do is talk about why I feel 11:11 is more than just random silliness to me and others. Having said that though, it is hard to explain just WHY 11:11 feels significant to us, why do people who see it devote webpages, songs, poetry, record companies, wedding dates etc....to this number, the short answer is I don't know. Mostly we're all still scratching our heads, wondering what this THING is. This is the element of where I guess you have to see it, to really understand. Like ghosts, if you see one but the guy next to you doesn't, you are not having the same experience and he will be unable to relate to yours....and I understand that and why you would think that 11:11 is nothing significant, to the person who saw the ghost though......nothings changed, ghost was still there, they are still freaked out

Firstly I don't proclaim to know "what" it is and my only advice I offer to anyone who contact me (and lots of people do) is to run away from anyone who tells you THIS IS what it is, no one knows. They too only have their understanding of it.
How do you make a case for meaningful coincidences. I guess it's a bit like UFO encounters or abductions. I've never had one, yet people who have been abducted feel a great need to connect to each other and share and understand what happend to them. I guess there is no way of proving that either.

To be quite honest I don't know what else to say. I was going to write about all the 11:11 things that happend to me and keep happening to me, the many and varied ways it presents itself but I guess suffice to say that those of us who do see it, feel it is a phenomenea and I must say now to me, an old friend. I will state that I have never had anything bad happen to me via 11:11 and I love how some people make a wish when they see it. Im not sure how that got started but I think it's great

Probably not what you were looking for, but I do thank you for taking the time to ask and read.

Cheers and blessings
Lia

[Insight]

Ok firstly, my fault wrong webpage, the webpage that we have on 11:11 is limited at the moment and is mostly run by John my husband but feel free to check it out.
My 11:11 Webpage

Ah, yes, this site was informative. Looks like the site isn't quite done yet though. But a good site none the less.

Now, I can't say for sure, but the first half of the article posted at http://www.anomalous...111/ga_mag.html sounds like an almost exact copy and paste of what I read on the main 11:11 website five years ago. It throws up alot of speculation and rhetoric, which do everything to support the fact that 11:11 os a mysterious number, and nothing to explain why this may be. Now, as I'm sure you can see, this does happen to be a tactic of expanding on any myth, even if that myth may one day become truth.

And as far as the numerology in this page: http://www.anomalous...1111/wtc11.html

Really, that sort of thing can be manipulated how one wants. For example, lets try it with the number 4.

First, here is what is posted on the site to serve as a comparisan:
* Date of the attack: 9/11 = 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.
* Trade Towers resembled ‘Eleven’.
* The World Trade Center was sold 11 weeks before the attack.
* 110 (11) floors two each trade tower
* AA (American Airlines) is numerically 11
* American Airlines Flight 11, carrying 81 passengers and 11
* September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.
* After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
* Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.
* The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11.
* State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union.
* New York was the 11th state to endorse the Constitution.
* New York City - 11 Letters.
* The Pentagon - 11 Letters
* Afghanistan - 11 Letters.
* Flight 11 - 81 on board - 8 + 1 = 9
* Flight 175 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11
* Flight 93 - 63 on board - 6 + 3 = 9

Now, here is my revamping of said numerology with the number 4:

Date of the attack: 9/11: 11 - 9 = 2. 2 is a multiple of four. There are two 1's in 911. 2 x 2 = 4.

The trade towers were both 4 sided buildings.

(oh, also, your fact that the WTC was sold 11 weeks before it was destroyed is just plain wrong. The World Trade Center was sold to Vornado Realty Trust in February, seven months prior to the attacks for 3.25 billion dollars. 7 months is 28 weeks. Get your facts right on your web page please.)

Each building had 110 floors. (1+1+1+1=4)

The words "american airlines" have 16 letters in them. 4 x 4 is 16.

The towers side by side look like the roman numeral 2, which is a multiple of 4.

The first plane to hit the tower was flight 11. 1+1=2. 2 is a multiple of 4.



There are just a few. I'm sure I could provide hundereds if I wanted to.

But why does that site have a blatantly false piece of information on it I wonder? Did you just get it from a wrong source? Or did you put it in there to support your website's 11:11 theoru, hoping no one would check on the facts?

What I can do is talk about why I feel 11:11 is more than just random silliness to me and others. Having said that though, it is hard to explain just WHY 11:11 feels significant to us, why do people who see it devote webpages, songs, poetry, record companies, wedding dates etc....to this number, the short answer is I don't know.
Why do people who see the movie StarWars devote webpages, songs, poetry, record companies, and weddings to it? Because it's a following. If people like something, they will follow it. Even if it is just a single number.


Mostly we're all still scratching our heads, wondering what this THING is.

Maybe your looking in the wrong direction. Maybe 11:11 is just a number, and the whole thing is an experiment in social engineering or a type of mind control. Maybe it's a mountain made out of a mole hill. Or maybe not.

This is the element of where I guess you have to see it, to really understand.

See what, exactly.


Like ghosts, if you see one but the guy next to you doesn't, you are not having the same experience and he will be unable to relate to yours....and I understand that and why you would think that 11:11 is nothing significant, to the person who saw the ghost though......nothings changed, ghost was still there, they are still freaked out

I understand what you mean. But still, something that is signifficant to me isn't nessecarily significant to the world it's self in any way. I really think you should do some study into how the human brain functions by recognizing patterns.


Firstly I don't proclaim to know "what" it is and my only advice I offer to anyone who contact me (and lots of people do) is to run away from anyone who tells you THIS IS what it is, no one knows. They too only have their understanding of it.
How do you make a case for meaningful coincidences.

You ever see the movie "I ♥ Huckabees"?


To be quite honest I don't know what else to say. I was going to write about all the 11:11 things that happend to me and keep happening to me, the many and varied ways it presents itself but I guess suffice to say that those of us who do see it, feel it is a phenomenea and I must say now to me, an old friend. I will state that I have never had anything bad happen to me via 11:11 and I love how some people make a wish when they see it. Im not sure how that got started but I think it's great

Have you had any post secondary education, or studied psychology at all? You really, really need to have an understanding of how the brain recognizes patterns. It might very well be the ket to explaining why this number has become special to you. Just a thought.

Anyways, I'm not trying to shoot naybody down here. I'm just trying to offer a helping hand with a bit of logic and experience every once and awhile. An interesting post, and an interesting website, for sure. I'm sure we'll talk more soon.

Insight

[Lialilith]

Hello again

Ah, yes, this site was informative. Looks like the site isn't quite done yet though. But a good site none the less.

No it's nowhere near done yet and is John's (husband) baby


(oh, also, your fact that the WTC was sold 11 weeks before it was destroyed is just plain wrong. The World Trade Center was sold to Vornado Realty Trust in February, seven months prior to the attacks for 3.25 billion dollars. 7 months is 28 weeks. Get your facts right on your web page please.)

I will bring that to John's attention and he can check it out.


Have you had any post secondary education, or studied psychology at all? You really, really need to have an understanding of how the brain recognizes patterns. It might very well be the ket to explaining why this number has become special to you. Just a thought.

Yes and Yes, more than you realise, my son is autistic and I have been very involved in psychology and trying to understand this area for a long time.

Though I'd have to say, the more education you have, the more you just believe what you are taught. An original thing at University is a frightening thing to the establishment. The smartest people in the world are the least "educated" IMO

Cheers to you
Lia

[Insight]

No it's nowhere near done yet and is John's (husband) baby

I thought as much. The layout looks nice though. Very professional looking.


I will bring that to John's attention and he can check it out.

Excellent.


Yes and Yes, more than you realise,

I believe you.

my son is autistic and I have been very involved in psychology and trying to understand this area for a long time.

Interesting. My younger brother just recently got a job working with an autistic boy. He says it's fascinating.

Though I'd have to say, the more education you have, the more you just believe what you are taught.

Now that I agree with 100%!!!

An original thing at University is a frightening thing to the establishment. The smartest people in the world are the least "educated" IMO

Again, I agree with you fully.

[BIGFOOT RULES]

This is something that has "plagued" me and my friends for about 10 years. We like to joke that the "11" phenomenon rules our lives. My one friend is actually sick and tired of how much 11's seem to pop up in his every day life. 11:11 is actually a unique time. It's the only time of day or night where all 4 numbers are the same. Keep in mind,all "4" numbers,not 3 numbers like say 5:55.

[Insight]

This is something that has "plagued" me and my friends for about 10 years. We like to joke that the "11" phenomenon rules our lives. My one friend is actually sick and tired of how much 11's seem to pop up in his every day life.   11:11 is actually a unique time. It's the only time of day or night where all 4 numbers are the same. Keep in mind,all "4" numbers,not 3 numbers like say 5:55. 

Seems like a fun little thing that your clique calls their own. Everyone has one.

[AnnieTina]

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Oh hun... No one will probably ever figure this out. I see 11:11 all the time. I have looked online to see what it meant.
Some sites say its your spirit guide telling you "HELLO, Im here, pay attention"
and others say it is when we are attuned with our self.. But for gawd sakes.. how many times a day must be attuned with our selfs? I see 11:11 at least 2-3 times daily and I am not checking what time it is when I see it.

Is that what it means?
I've been seeing 11:11 ever since my best friend in the entire world,
Tina Marie Ayer died in The Station Nightclub Fire in Rhode Island on 2-20-03.
I know that has to be her time of death since the fire started at 11:07.
Thanks,
Annie

[Nirwana]

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This is something that has "plagued" me and my friends for about 10 years. We like to joke that the "11" phenomenon rules our lives. My one friend is actually sick and tired of how much 11's seem to pop up in his every day life. 11:11 is actually a unique time. It's the only time of day or night where all 4 numbers are the same. Keep in mind,all "4" numbers,not 3 numbers like say 5:55.

Not actually.. what about 22:22?

Edit: Forget about it.. you mean like 12 hours timing right? I was thinking about full 24hours timing, you're right I guess.

This post has been edited by Nirwana: 18 October 2005 - 02:43 PM

[MrVelvet]

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I swear to god, I see 9:11 a lot when I look at the clock. Of course I notice it now more than I would have before the attack, but it gives me a moment to reflect on what happened.

So do I. I see 9-11 on my clocks all the time...Not only is my dad's birthday 9/11 but it started way before 911 we all know of...my dad has passed on, but it still occurs to this day..

[Stella777]

For the last 90 days I've seen the time 11:11 4-5 times a day. I didn't know what the significance was so I purchased lotto tickets, avoided traveling at that time, and told my closest friends. A few weeks ago I had a vivid dream of being a survivor of a pole shift that occurred on 12-21-12. I started researching the Mayan calendar and found that it is set to restart on 12-21-12 at 11:11 am. Since then I no longer see 11:11 throughout the day.

Stella777

[Stella777]

For the last 90 days I've been haunted by the time 11:11, seeing it for no apparent reason 4-5 times a day. I didn't know what the significance was so I purchased lotto tickets, avoided traveling at that time, and told my closest friends. A few weeks ago I had a vivid dream of being a survivor of a pole shift that occurred on 12-21-12. I started researching the Mayan calendar and found that it is set to restart on 12-21-12 at 11:11 am. Since then I no longer see 11:11 throughout the day.

Stella777

[radish]

In numerology 11 is a master number.

Whenever I see 11:11 on my clock, I always think of God and offer a prayer of gratitude for my blessings.

This post has been edited by radish: 19 January 2008 - 04:17 PM

[2colon2]

trinity082482, on 16 August 2005 - 09:15 AM, said:

Oh hun... No one will probably ever figure this out. I see 11:11 all the time. I have looked online to see what it meant.
Some sites say its your spirit guide telling you "HELLO, Im here, pay attention"
and others say it is when we are attuned with our self.. But for gawd sakes.. how many times a day must be attuned with our selfs? I see 11:11 at least 2-3 times daily and I am not checking what time it is when I see it. <!--emo&--><img src='http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='no.gif' /><!--endemo-->

If you are seeing 11:11 more than twice daily, there is a simple explanation........Your clock is broken!!!