Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


* * * - - 2 votes

A new angle on 2012


  • Please log in to reply
299 replies to this topic

#286    Joris

Joris

    Alien Embryo

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 26 posts
  • Joined:15 Aug 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Denmark

  • You attract the things you're afraid of.

Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:33 PM

Hi Essan.

I find that post of you very interesting! In my research of the date december 21 2012 I've found and concluded many og the same things as you bring up here..
- You also seem to belive it to be true? I also do..
It will not be the end of the earth, but a intering of a new time.


#287    TheSearcher

TheSearcher

    Coffee expert extraordinair

  • Member
  • 3,845 posts
  • Joined:16 Jun 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium

Posted 22 September 2009 - 07:45 AM

View PostJoris, on 21 September 2009 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostEssan, on 17 August 2005 - 12:07 PM, said:

jjtss said:

I hope that someone can disprove this premise

If you insist

jjtss said:

the year 2012 is the calculated end of the precessionary cycle of our solar system(it has been scientifically verified).

Not it's not and no it hasn't, 2012 has no astronomical significance whatsoever

jjtss said:

At that time on the winter solstice, the sun will have traveled to the edge of a cosmic dust cloud in the Milky Way, known as the Great Rift to scientists.    It was known to the Mayans as the Door to the Underworld, the place where the sky opens (also mentioned in Revelations).  As the sun travels there, so too do all the planets.  The Great Rift in the Milky Way is a very dense cloud of space dust, so dense that it blocks all the light from the stars within and behind it.

And it also doesn't exist......

jjtss said:

On December 21, 2012 (as the Mayans have predicted) the Sun will be at or on its' edge; the Earth is 93million miles away from the Sun and,  therefore during that time, will be WITHIN the "Dust Cloud" for approximately 3-5 months of its' 365 day orbit around the sun.  Darkness will fall upon the land and stones will rain down from the heavens just as foretold in the bible and legends of other cultures around the world including the Aztecs and Mayans. If this were the only danger, we could make preparations to survive this manageable catastrophe.  Now I come to the reason to believe that this is a time of Earth in upheaval.  My singular fear of this time is:  What if, instead of Nibiru/Marduk/Nemesis coming to us, we are traveling TO Nibiru (the Earth is going to Hell?)  Could there be a red dwarf hiding in that cloud of dust?  Is this what "comes out" of the opening in the sky to rain fury upon the Earth(Revelations)?  Even if the mass of that red dwarf is only one-fifth of the Sun, what do you think would happen when the Earth passes between the Sun and Nibiru?  A tug-or war between good and evil?  Read the prophecies of Mother Shipton for a hint of the upheaval that would ensue.
Will there be a period of enlightenment?  Oh yeah!  Not only will civilization reach a new understanding of its' position in the Universe and the clockwork nature of it, Humanity will definitely be humbled by the upheaval.
Is there any hope of salvation for at least some of us?  Well, many  cultures have legends of rescue;  Native Americans tell of being rescued by a flying turtle; the Harrapan legends tell of rescue by a flying boat, and it goes on around the world.  So, maybe there is an intelligent and merciful power in the Universe that keeps watch over its' creation and will intervene propitiously.
I have spewed my terrors upon you, and if you are finished reading this, begin your refutations.



So, a non existent dust cloud will bring darkness on the Earth, leading to us colliding with a non existent planet.  But we might  be saved by a giant space turtle......

On second thoughts, why bother trying to disprove it?   :sleepy:

Hi Essan.

I find that post of you very interesting! In my research of the date december 21 2012 I've found and concluded many og the same things as you bring up here..
- You also seem to belive it to be true? I also do..
It will not be the end of the earth, but a intering of a new time.

Not wanting upset you, but Essan disproves most of what the OP says, like some of us have been doing too. I also cleaned up the quote a tad, it was using the old quoting system which makes it hard to read, hope you don't mind.

It is only the ignorant who despise education.
Publilius Syrus.

So god made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom?!

#288    digitalartist

digitalartist

    Psychic Spy

  • Validating
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,941 posts
  • Joined:21 Mar 2008
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New York State

  • I'm Done

Posted 22 September 2009 - 05:28 PM

View Postjoc, on 17 August 2005 - 02:55 AM, said:

I remember just a few years ago when all the planets lined up perfectly...doom sayers said the exact same thing.

The world is never going to end......never............

Alhough it could be reposessed if we fail to make payments on time.


#289    Agent. Mulder

Agent. Mulder

    Only man to have fought Sasquatch. And lived...

  • Member
  • 15,163 posts
  • Joined:08 Feb 2006
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:london, ontario

  • ...highly unlikely, but not outside the realm of Extreme possibility.

Posted 22 September 2009 - 07:29 PM

View PostJoris, on 21 September 2009 - 08:33 PM, said:

Hi Essan.

I find that post of you very interesting! In my research of the date december 21 2012 I've found and concluded many og the same things as you bring up here..
- You also seem to belive it to be true? I also do..
It will not be the end of the earth, but a intering of a new time.

...and what type of research have you done on this exactly?

the truth is out there....

#290    komickaze

komickaze

    Alien Embryo

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 5 posts
  • Joined:15 Sep 2009
  • Gender:Male

  • Esoteric Technician

Posted 23 September 2009 - 03:56 AM

View PostDenzanrom, on 17 August 2005 - 07:24 AM, said:

joc is right. The world will never end. Maybe "we" as humans will end but the world will never end. It will not miss us. In the eyes of the world and of lowly rocks who live millions of years we have existed in but a blink of and eye. Yup, they won't miss us one bit.

I have never known a doomsayer to speak of the end of the world in a planet-is-going-to-blow-up context. It has ALWAYS been described in a social collapse/war/earth changes context. Every prophecy, every prediction, every vision has been about the end of US and how it will come about.

History has shown that the planet changes and adapts. It has also shown that many species have been destroyed in these events. Sometimes it's local. Sometimes its global. In any case, the population of the planet is so great right now that even the regularly occuring events can have devestating consequences for humans. Just look at the tsunami from 2004. Hundreds of thousands died because a (relatively) little bit of earth and ocean moved. A mundane event with serious consequences. Just think what would happen if the same thing happened along a small portion of one of the US coasts.

"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." - Einsten
www.december-21-2012.com
December-21-2012.com on Twitter!
komickaze.blogspot.com

#291    CUCUMBERiiiii

CUCUMBERiiiii

    Alien Embryo

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 45 posts
  • Joined:22 Sep 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Zagreb

Posted 25 September 2009 - 10:24 AM

View Postjoc, on 17 August 2005 - 02:55 AM, said:


The world is never going to end......never............

maybe in 453594394506 billions of years,but then we will live on some other planet... :D

Edited by CUCUMBERiiiii, 25 September 2009 - 10:25 AM.

Posted Image


#292    Tiggs

Tiggs

    Relax. It's only me.

  • 10,170 posts
  • Joined:30 Jan 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Orange County, California

  • Universe Service Pack 2 still needs patching.

Posted 25 September 2009 - 09:44 PM

Ahem.

I've just removed several recent posts from this thread.

As such - could I please remind members to avoid making ad hominem attacks. In other words, please discuss the topic of the thread, rather than discussing the members posting within it.

In addition - some of our newer members should note that to reply to another member's post, press the reply button immediately underneath their post, and a quoted version of that post should appear. Please type your response underneath the quoted text, rather than creating a reply within a second post, as it becomes confusing to follow, otherwise.

Thanks in advance,

Tiggs
[Forum Mod Team]


#293    Csongi

Csongi

    Alien Embryo

  • Banned
  • Pip
  • 24 posts
  • Joined:27 Sep 2009
  • Gender:Male

Posted 27 September 2009 - 10:34 AM

I love the idea: Something huge happens at 2012 just before the Christmas night, while the Christmas tree is already in the living room .....



Probably this is the real time to turn the dates and the word to December 1992 just before the Christmas.....




Its really romantic.............I don't know if it is even more exciting if something huge like monumental happening ..........Like the sun is running to the horizon, stones coming from the sky or whatever ............





I will see what is the most proper and interesting and emotionally and spiritually the highest level ideas.....





: )







Csongi




Or even stones crashing the word as OK: It was enough we are starting the new periode o the word or whatever .........



Actually if its like really interesting and really exciting and we like this idea after then maybe it will happens......




Every kind of catastrophes are could happens.......







Csongi








e name='jjtss' date='17 August 2005 - 12:52 PM' timestamp='1124239964' post='794272']
I hope that someone can disprove this premise, but read carefully first.
the year 2012 is the calculated end of the precessionary cycle of our solar system(it has been scientifically verified).  At that time on the winter solstice, the sun will have traveled to the edge of a cosmic dust cloud in the Milky Way, known as the Great Rift to scientists.  It was known to the Mayans as the Door to the Underworld, the place where the sky opens (also mentioned in Revelations).  As the sun travels there, so too do all the planets.  The Great Rift in the Milky Way is a very dense cloud of space dust, so dense that it blocks all the light from the stars within and behind it.
On December 21, 2012 (as the Mayans have predicted) the Sun will be at or on its' edge; the Earth is 93million miles away from the Sun and,  therefore during that time, will be WITHIN the "Dust Cloud" for approximately 3-5 months of its' 365 day orbit around the sun.  Darkness will fall upon the land and stones will rain down from the heavens just as foretold in the bible and legends of other cultures around the world including the Aztecs and Mayans.  
If this were the only danger, we could make preparations to survive this manageable catastrophe.  Now I come to the reason to believe that this is a time of Earth in upheaval.  My singular fear of this time is:  What if, instead of Nibiru/Marduk/Nemesis coming to us, we are traveling TO Nibiru (the Earth is going to Hell?)  Could there be a red dwarf hiding in that cloud of dust?  Is this what "comes out" of the opening in the sky to rain fury upon the Earth(Revelations)?  Even if the mass of that red dwarf is only one-fifth of the Sun, what do you think would happen when the Earth passes between the Sun and Nibiru?  A tug-or war between good and evil?  Read the prophecies of Mother Shipton for a hint of the upheaval that would ensue.
Will there be a period of enlightenment?  Oh yeah!  Not only will civilization reach a new understanding of its' position in the Universe and the clockwork nature of it, Humanity will definitely be humbled by the upheaval.
Is there any hope of salvation for at least some of us?  Well, many  cultures have legends of rescue;  Native Americans tell of being rescued by a flying turtle; the Harrapan legends tell of rescue by a flying boat, and it goes on around the world.  So, maybe there is an intelligent and merciful power in the Universe that keeps watch over its' creation and will intervene propitiously.
I have spewed my terrors upon you, and if you are finished reading this, begin your refutations.
I will read them all.  <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[/quote]


#294    Agent. Mulder

Agent. Mulder

    Only man to have fought Sasquatch. And lived...

  • Member
  • 15,163 posts
  • Joined:08 Feb 2006
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:london, ontario

  • ...highly unlikely, but not outside the realm of Extreme possibility.

Posted 27 September 2009 - 05:19 PM

View PostCsongi, on 27 September 2009 - 10:34 AM, said:

I love the idea: Something huge happens at 2012 just before the Christmas night, while the Christmas tree is already in the living room .....

(this is for your whole post)
What???

the truth is out there....

#295    TheSearcher

TheSearcher

    Coffee expert extraordinair

  • Member
  • 3,845 posts
  • Joined:16 Jun 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium

Posted 28 September 2009 - 08:00 AM

View PostTiggs, on 25 September 2009 - 09:44 PM, said:

Ahem.

I've just removed several recent posts from this thread.
As such - could I please remind members to avoid making ad hominem attacks. In other words, please discuss the topic of the thread, rather than discussing the members posting within it.
...
Thanks in advance,
Tiggs
[Forum Mod Team]

My bad, apologies to all, but I got pissed off at some point. I'll try not to let it happen again.

View PostCsongi, on 27 September 2009 - 10:34 AM, said:

I love the idea: Something huge happens at 2012 just before the Christmas night, while the Christmas tree is already in the living room .....

Probably this is the real time to turn the dates and the word to December 1992 just before the Christmas.....

Its really romantic.............I don't know if it is even more exciting if something huge like monumental happening ..........Like the sun is running to the horizon, stones coming from the sky or whatever ............

I will see what is the most proper and interesting and emotionally and spiritually the highest level ideas.....
: )

Csongi

Or even stones crashing the word as OK: It was enough we are starting the new periode o the word or whatever .........

Actually if its like really interesting and really exciting and we like this idea after then maybe it will happens......

Every kind of catastrophes are could happens.......

Csongi



For those who want to understand what he is on about (or at least try to) : His other closed threrad
To the europeans amongst us, beware, he is not allowed to chat or respond to us. BTW, I would like to know why that is. so if anybody could ask him the question, that would be great.

It is only the ignorant who despise education.
Publilius Syrus.

So god made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom?!

#296    odiesbsc

odiesbsc

    Astral Projection

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 672 posts
  • Joined:18 May 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Montana, USA

  • Some folks drink from the fountain of knowledge. Some folks just gargle and spit it out.

Posted 29 September 2009 - 07:55 PM

View PostCsongi, on 27 September 2009 - 10:34 AM, said:

I love the idea: Something huge happens at 2012 just before the Christmas night, while the Christmas tree is already in the living room .....



Probably this is the real time to turn the dates and the word to December 1992 just before the Christmas.....




Its really romantic.............I don't know if it is even more exciting if something huge like monumental happening ..........Like the sun is running to the horizon, stones coming from the sky or whatever ............





I will see what is the most proper and interesting and emotionally and spiritually the highest level ideas.....





: )







Csongi




Or even stones crashing the word as OK: It was enough we are starting the new periode o the word or whatever .........



Actually if its like really interesting and really exciting and we like this idea after then maybe it will happens......




Every kind of catastrophes are could happens.......







Csongi





Huh ???

Edited by odiesbsc, 29 September 2009 - 07:58 PM.

As you slide down the water slide of life, may none of your swimming suits give you a permanent wedgie.

~Ancient Polynesian Greeting~



If the teacher has no DNA testing apperatus, you're probably safe blaming the booger you wiped on her computer screen on someone else.

~American Defense Lawyers' Ethics Training Book for Children~


#297    Mobhitmusicman

Mobhitmusicman

    Alien Embryo

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 113 posts
  • Joined:23 Sep 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:At My Keyboard!

Posted 30 September 2009 - 01:28 AM

View PostSTIX, on 17 August 2005 - 12:58 AM, said:

there is so much BS and speculation about the year 2012 its useless to believe in any of the theories, just accept that something may happen and do the best you can in life, thats all that can be done, its useless to worry about anything "appocalyptic" which may occur... if it does, it does.

And there is jack---- you can do about it!!!

You think I am right behind you, But I wouldn't look over your shoulder!

#298    Agent. Mulder

Agent. Mulder

    Only man to have fought Sasquatch. And lived...

  • Member
  • 15,163 posts
  • Joined:08 Feb 2006
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:london, ontario

  • ...highly unlikely, but not outside the realm of Extreme possibility.

Posted 30 September 2009 - 04:37 PM

View PostMobhitmusicman, on 30 September 2009 - 01:28 AM, said:

And there is jack---- you can do about it!!!

...do about what? the rediculous theories that keep coming?

the truth is out there....

#299    TheSearcher

TheSearcher

    Coffee expert extraordinair

  • Member
  • 3,845 posts
  • Joined:16 Jun 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium

Posted 01 October 2009 - 07:43 AM

View PostAgent. Mulder, on 30 September 2009 - 04:37 PM, said:

...do about what? the rediculous theories that keep coming?

Probably the avalanche of human waste that is being generated by the 2012 thing.

It is only the ignorant who despise education.
Publilius Syrus.

So god made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom?!

#300    Agent. Mulder

Agent. Mulder

    Only man to have fought Sasquatch. And lived...

  • Member
  • 15,163 posts
  • Joined:08 Feb 2006
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:london, ontario

  • ...highly unlikely, but not outside the realm of Extreme possibility.

Posted 01 October 2009 - 06:59 PM

View PostTheSearcher, on 01 October 2009 - 07:43 AM, said:

Probably the avalanche of human waste that is being generated by the 2012 thing.

haha thats what i was thinking

the truth is out there....




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users