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#1    Me_Again

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:02 AM

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How New Orleans Was Lost
by Paul Craig Roberts

Chalk up the city of New Orleans as a cost of Bush's Iraq war.

There were not enough helicopters to repair the breached levees and rescue people trapped by rising water. Nor are there enough Louisiana National Guardsmen available to help with rescue efforts and to patrol against looting.

The situation is the same in Mississippi.

The National Guard and helicopters are off on a fool's mission in Iraq.

The National Guard is in Iraq because fanatical neoconservatives in the Bush administration were determined to invade the Middle East and because incompetent Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld refused to listen to the generals, who told him there were not enough regular troops available to do the job.

After the invasion, the arrogant Rumsfeld found out that the generals were right. The National Guard was called up to fill in the gaping gaps.

Now the Guardsmen, trapped in the Iraqi quagmire, are watching on TV the families they left behind trapped by rising waters and wondering if the floating bodies are family members. None know where their dislocated families are, but, shades of Fallujah, they do see their destroyed homes.

The mayor of New Orleans was counting on helicopters to put in place massive sandbags to repair the levee. However, someone called the few helicopters away to rescue people from rooftops. The rising water overwhelmed the massive pumping stations, and New Orleans disappeared under deep water.

What a terrible casualty of the Iraqi war – one of our oldest and most beautiful cities, a famous city, a historic city.

Distracted by its phony war on terrorism, the U.S. government had made no preparations in the event Hurricane Katrina brought catastrophe to New Orleans. No contingency plan existed. Only now after the disaster are FEMA and the Corps of Engineers trying to assemble the material and equipment to save New Orleans from the fate of Atlantis.

Even worse, articles in the New Orleans Times-Picayune and public statements by emergency management chiefs in New Orleans make it clear that the Bush administration slashed the funding for the Corps of Engineers' projects to strengthen and raise the New Orleans levees and diverted the money to the Iraq war.

Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, told the New Orleans Times-Picayune (June 8, 2004): "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

Why can't the U.S. government focus on America's needs and leave other countries alone? Why are American troops in Iraq instead of protecting our own borders from a mass invasion by illegal immigrants? Why are American helicopters blowing up Iraqi homes instead of saving American homes in New Orleans?

How can the Bush administration be so incompetent as to expose Americans at home to dire risks by exhausting American resources in foolish foreign adventures? What kind of "homeland security" is this?

All Bush has achieved by invading Iraq is to kill and wound thousands of people while destroying America's reputation. The only beneficiaries are oil companies capitalizing on a good excuse to jack up the price of gasoline and Osama bin Laden's recruitment.

What we have is a Republican war for oil company profits while New Orleans sinks beneath the waters.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:08 AM

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This is just plain stupid.  Anyone who believes this is also ...just plain stupid.



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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:09 AM

joc, try my response on the other thread, bush's resonse.......

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:21 AM

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joc Posted Today, 12:08 AM
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Chalk up the city of New Orleans as a cost of Bush's Iraq war.


This is just plain stupid. Anyone who believes this is also ...just plain stupid.


Are you calling me stupid, stupid  tongue.gif
Care to elaborate more on why its so stupid (other than just calling me stupid), the fact is that if we weren't in an unplanned war at the moment, we would have a better plan for disaster in our own country  yes.gif

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:27 AM

Me_Again...

...There have been people shouting in the wilderness about how vulnerable New Orleans  
was to a direct hit by a storm like Katrina for Fourty years.  For Fourty years Me_Again.
The Iraq War has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the Tragedy on the Gulf Coast.

You people just need to put your hatred for President Bush aside and consider the lives of the people who have been lost and are suffering. And to blame any one person for the tragedy that mother nature caused is just plain stupid.  I'm not calling anyone any names...I'm just calling the thought process stupid and ...stupid is as stupid does. tongue.gif

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:29 AM

..and blind is as blind does.
your missing the point joc.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:58 AM

joc, if there was no iraq war at the moment then there would be more people helping down there, dont you agree? or you thinking bombing iraq is better use?

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:59 AM

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I don't think the response would be any different than it is now.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:08 AM

QUOTE(joc @ Sep 2 2005, 01:08 AM)
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Chalk up the city of New Orleans as a cost of Bush's Iraq war.


This is just plain stupid.  Anyone who believes this is also ...just plain stupid.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:09 AM

QUOTE(joc @ Sep 1 2005, 08:59 PM)
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joc, if there was no iraq war at the moment then there would be more people helping down there, dont you agree? or you thinking bombing iraq is better use?


I don't think the response would be any different than it is now.

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They would have alot more help because there would be a lot more money and aid to send to them. But we have used our money to kill people instead of help them.

Edited by ajagsfairy, 02 September 2005 - 01:10 AM.


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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:15 AM

QUOTE(ajagsfairy @ Sep 1 2005, 08:09 PM)
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joc, if there was no iraq war at the moment then there would be more people helping down there, dont you agree? or you thinking bombing iraq is better use?


I don't think the response would be any different than it is now.

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They would have alot more help because there would be a lot more money and aid to send to them. But we have used our money to kill people instead of help them.

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Well... that was awfully country self-centered.  blink.gif I guess we're not HELPING the Iraqi people. Nor are we fighting on the front lines of terrorism for people.  rolleyes.gif

Edited by __Kratos__, 02 September 2005 - 01:18 AM.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:20 AM

No Kratos your not, that is just what your puppet master president has spoon fed you.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:20 AM

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:26 AM

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Yes Joc her reply proves here quote as valid, because there are so many idiots that think America and the UK are helping Iraq.

You really should not be suggesting other people are idiots, going on you make fun of people punching babies in the face, also goes to prove Ajagsfairy's quote.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:31 AM

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Yes Joc her reply proves here quote as valid, because there are so many idiots that think America and the UK are helping Iraq.


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You really should not be suggesting other people are idiots, going on you make fun of people punching babies in the face, also goes to prove Ajagsfairy's quote.


The thought process that some people are egaged in is suggestion enough on its own.

Don't you have  a sense of humor?  Lighten up a little....do you ever laugh?

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